"Film is Expensive"? – Only in Canada

I asked them about that once.. I guess it's a physical store cost thing, like trying to make up some of the overhead costs. Also, their website is a separate business.

Yeah, but I was surprised, even with the markup, how competitive it is.
And some of their online prices are better than B&H, for all those looking for the best deals out there.

Once my stash of film has been used up I will definitely be looking at giving some of the locals my business. Seems you are in luck if you live in LA or NYC.
 
Kodaks distribution in Canada has always been a bit brutal with their prices. Usually the charge more for film whole sale than BH, free Style etc charge retail. I find that Free Style is probably the best - they ship promptly.
The trick is to get together with other shooters locally and "gang" order. Shipping is cheaper and getting it into Canada is quite simple. Of course the low C$ hurts - but you are still about 1/2 price of store prices here.
When TriX is approaching C$ 12-14/roll for 35mm film - there is something wrong. The store must make a profit, but not gouging the customers. What will happen is that nobody will buy their film - just go online instead.
I tend to do big bulk buys - sometimes on my own and sometimes with friends. Hurts when you pay for it - but if the stock lasts a couple of years - you have forgotten it.
 
Here's something to make your eyes water. From Vanbar's site here in Oz.


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This is a shipment dating from 2011. Arista Premium 400 - 1000 rolls. About 300 rolls were set aside for friend, the glance was mine. I have added another couple 0f 100 rolls in the intervening years - but even so, I can see the bottom of the stash. Most of this film is when we travel as IXMOO cassettes make airport security suspicious. Hmm, that looks like some big gauge gun ammo!". At the time, the Arista was US$2.09 a rill, Fedex shipped to Vancouver added $100 and taxes added some more. Came out to about $ 2.70/roll in the end. It is a lot of film, but if you "gang" up with other users, it is worth it.
 
I hear you. Prices in Quebec aren't much better. I've had good luck with Photo Service in Montreal. They ship - you can order online from them. Price for TMY is $7.99 CAN in 120 and $9.98 CAN for 135 : http://photoservice.ca/fr/products.html?catalog[name]=Film&catalog[decision_model_guids][0]=160830cc-7790-4399-9330-586545ab3e9b&catalog[offset]=60
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With our weak dollar, I decided to buy a 400ft of Kodak Double-X last spring. For about $250 CAN + tax, it's quite cheap I think. Works great with Xtol. I love the look and versatility of the film, but maybe you prefer something more modern looking.
 
Be advised that with a looming Canada Post strike I'd be careful about ordering film from outside Canada...make sure they don't ship it via USPS or else your film could be sitting in a hot trailer parked in a yard for weeks!
 
Once upon a time when I worked for a photofinisher, we sold film for essentially what it cost us to buy it AND gave a new roll of film away with every roll we processed that printed out 50% of the frames. And a full 36 shot roll of 35mm film D&P was $9. This was predicated on the fact that that $9 price tag per roll incorporated a 65% markup from our cost of operation, and we sold a lot of D&P. The profit from that alone was enough to pay the rent, the salaries, and the operating costs of the lab with a little left over for growth and development. The same was true of every camera shop and photofinisher I knew, they all priced out film in the same way.

Photofinishers now have virtually no D&P income. So film has to be sold at the actual retail price, not the D&P-subsidized deep discount it once was. And the actual retail prices have risen dramatically because there is insufficient demand to keep those expensive film production machines running at their most economical rate, so the cost of manufacture has gone up. Big vendors selling mail order can afford some discounting because they earn their profits across a broader stroke of product sales.

The entire chain of business profitability for the camera vendor has been impacted severely in recent years due to increase in the costs of rent, the costs of insurance for employees, the cost of salaries, etc etc., as well.

So before you go accusing your friendly neighborhood camera/film dealer of "gouging", be sure you understand how lucky you are that someone is interested enough to figure out how to stay profitable enough not to just close their doors so that you can still buy film at all. And go buy something from them so that they have a chance of not seeing another month of red ink on the balance sheet. Because without customers and profits, they'll surely be gone soon.

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This has got to be one of the most clueless posts I have ever witnessed here. if some shops can sell film for $7.80 a roll and other sell at $17.09, the rest of the equation ismtotally irrelevant. They are gouging, plain and simple.
 
I hear you. Prices in Quebec aren't much better. I've had good luck with Photo Service in Montreal. They ship - you can order online from them. Price for TMY is $7.99 CAN in 120 and $9.98 CAN for 135 : http://photoservice.ca/fr/products.html?catalog[name]=Film&catalog[decision_model_guids][0]=160830cc-7790-4399-9330-586545ab3e9b&catalog[offset]=60
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With our weak dollar, I decided to buy a 400ft of Kodak Double-X last spring. For about $250 CAN + tax, it's quite cheap I think. Works great with Xtol. I love the look and versatility of the film, but maybe you prefer something more modern looking.

I was lucky to buy some 24 cans of 400 ft XX before the price went nuts. It did cost me $127 per can. This is my "day to day" film at home shooting or when travelling by car. I have about 11 rolls left (4400 ft) and when that is used up I will probably switch tp ORWO 74 - which in some ways is a better film than the XX.
 
Here's something to make your eyes water. From Vanbar's site here in Oz.


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That is terrible Keith. I don't even look at the pre-rolled film here beyond the fringes of civilization in darkest South-Western Oz. I buy 100 foot lengths of Delta 100 and keep one lot ahead in case of disaster. Doesn't compare to Tom A's prepping though....
 
I was lucky to buy some 24 cans of 400 ft XX before the price went nuts. It did cost me $127 per can. This is my "day to day" film at home shooting or when travelling by car. I have about 11 rolls left (4400 ft) and when that is used up I will probably switch tp ORWO 74 - which in some ways is a better film than the XX.

I did something similar, bought 1200 ft of plus x for around £60 a few years ago still got more than 800 ft left as for colour I've been buying Agfa vista 200 at poundland for you guessed it a £1.
 
I was lucky to buy some 24 cans of 400 ft XX before the price went nuts. It did cost me $127 per can. This is my "day to day" film at home shooting or when travelling by car. I have about 11 rolls left (4400 ft) and when that is used up I will probably switch tp ORWO 74 - which in some ways is a better film than the XX.

Wow, that's quite the deal! About Orwo : can you tell me what is the way to buy it from Canada?
 
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