Film is really dead...

Phantomas said:
This year no new film - no new samples. No free samples? Film is dead!
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Adox Fotoimpex is releasing a new B&W film and a new color film. The color film is called Color Implosion, and it should appeal to the hipster / lomographer. The other is Silvermax, a B&W 100 ASA film that is based on APX 100.

Fotoimpex is also announcing a new Super 8 film.

I don't know if Fotoimpex will hand out any free film.

Phantomas said:
But seriously, curious what non-digital funny stuff there will be.
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Jobo CPP-3 processor
A new Rollei TLR
An update to the Rollei Hy6

In the Hybrid category, there will also be the new Plustek film scanner.
 
It always baffles me as to why a photographer would even attend a gear head trade show. Would you not be better off taking a workshop, attending Look3 or Perpignan?

If you did you would soon realize that film will never be dead....
 
KM-25 said:
It always baffles me as to why a photographer would even attend a gear head trade show. Would you not be better off taking a workshop, attending Look3 or Perpignan?

If you did you would soon realize that film will never be dead....
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Workshops and Perpignan are nice, done both. Photokina is actually for work, but won't deny it's fun. Nobody's shooting 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
 
KM-25 said:
It always baffles me as to why a photographer would even attend a gear head trade show. Would you not be better off taking a workshop, attending Look3 or Perpignan?

If you did you would soon realize that film will never be dead....
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Have you ever been to photokina?

The magic word is TRADE: 'gear head' is completely irrelevant in this context. It's a trade show, where manufacturers go to sell their equipment to dealers. There are few better places to get a feel or the trade -- and I cannot quite see how anyone can pretend that photography is totally independent of the photographic equipment trade.

Frances and I will be covering it for Shutterbug magazine, but we're also looking forward to the exhibitions that are scattered throughout the halls, and to the pictures on the manufacturers' stands, and to meeting other photographers and journalists, some of whom we'll not have seen since 2010.

We go to Arles every year, but I can't see what this has to do with going to photokina, or not going. To refuse to go to one because we go to the other would be like saying, "I like veal chops, therefore I won't eat strawberries."

Cheers,

R.
 
Believe it or not film is like technology. Used to be RND departments invested millions in it and improved it's grain factor , color rendition , sharpness etc. Because the type of film you used was as important as your lens , camera body etc..

Unfortunately Film hasn't had massive progression in the last 30 years.

I also believe if film was so popular these days , we could've had devices that you would enter all the chemicals and solvents in and the devoliping , drying , washing and scanning would happen for you
 
zsas said:
ADOX will be there and they have two new films that I believe they will have at Photokina (Silvermax and Color Implosion)...
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I'm quite looking forward to giving Color Implosion a go. Although I'm primarily a B&W guy occasionally I like to try out colour, especially the more 'quirky' emulsions and this new film from Adox looks great! :)
 
denizg7 said:
Believe it or not film is like technology. Used to be RND departments invested millions in it and improved it's grain factor , color rendition , sharpness etc. Because the type of film you used was as important as your lens , camera body etc..

Unfortunately Film hasn't had massive progression in the last 30 years.

I also believe if film was so popular these days , we could've had devices that you would enter all the chemicals and solvents in and the devoliping , drying , washing and scanning would happen for you
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I would suggest that film *has* made massive progress in the past 30 years, Portra 400, Velvia, and perhaps Provia 400X are pretty good steps forward. Many have more experience than I do, but I have found that Portra 400 can be treated like an ISO 100 film in terms of thinking about resolution. It's not the leaps and bounds that digital has made in 15 years, but good progress nonetheless.
 
Feel free to dump your dead film (before it has developed bad smell) in boxes at post office with my postal address on them :) I'll bury it properly and deliver proof of it.
 
denizg7 said:
Believe it or not film is like technology. Used to be RND departments invested millions in it and improved it's grain factor , color rendition , sharpness etc. Because the type of film you used was as important as your lens , camera body etc..

Unfortunately Film hasn't had massive progression in the last 30 years.

I also believe if film was so popular these days , we could've had devices that you would enter all the chemicals and solvents in and the devoliping , drying , washing and scanning would happen for you
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We have. They're called minilabs.

Cheers,

R.
 
Cool, you guys can go, I am just not into it, no time for that kind of thing really when there are great photos out there to be made.
 
KM-25 said:
It always baffles me as to why a photographer would even attend a gear head trade show. Would you not be better off taking a workshop, attending Look3 or Perpignan?

If you did you would soon realize that film will never be dead....
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Exactly.

At the least, they'd be out making images instead of sensationalistic, cheap troll-ish posts.
 
I just bought 120 rolls of 35mm HP5+. I will run it through my Leica MPs. Going to run a bunch of color film through the Nikons this fall. If I ever can't get sheet film for my 4x5, I guess I can do my own dry plates. Film is not dead.
 
KM-25 said:
It always baffles me as to why a photographer would even attend a gear head trade show. Would you not be better off taking a workshop, attending Look3 or Perpignan?

If you did you would soon realize that film will never be dead....
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However, depending on the industry you are working in, it is much easier to write off your expenses to a trade show than to some of the above (worthwhile as they are).
 
denizg7 said:
I also believe if film was so popular these days , we could've had devices that you would enter all the chemicals and solvents in and the devoliping , drying , washing and scanning would happen for you
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Did you miss out on Polachrome? :( It was pretty awesome... in a sort of ez-bake oven kind of way.
 
Phantomas said:
... if I don't get free samples at Photokina. And something tells me I won't. Nothing new. Last 'kina - new and improved Portra. Samples. 'kina before that - new Ektar. Samples. This year no new film - no new samples. No free samples? Film is dead!
But seriously, curious what non-digital funny stuff there will be. Besides lomographie freakies I guess the regulars like Alpa will be there, maybe Rolleiflex again with the lastest TLRs behind the glass, an odd MF or LF back and lens manufacturers in between, maybe the boring old Practica will have a stand making me go "WTF?!" every time. Few chinese stands hawking their Seaguls right off displays. Fuji will have GFs far away from the main stand with no attendant knowing what the hell they are. It's all good fun.

(Still - no free film, weak.)
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Gee!
I guess I missed the memo.
 
umcelinho said:
aw, if only it weren't made for SLRs... :)
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Further proof that Rangefinders are dead! It's only a matter of time before we're all forced to shoot SLR's because without the support of Kodak and its massive and invincible film division they have no chance of survival.;)
 
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