Film Labeled Wrong???? Problems...

[DRabbit]

Today with Arista EDU Ultra 200 I had problems rewinding and it broke 2/3 of the way through. Looking at the roll after removing it from the camera I realized the label on the canister was slightly coming off. Removing it revealed C-41 underneith... Now I'm worried about developing it...

See attached...

I'm not sure what to do...

 

[ItsReallyDarren]

If you can take a look at the unwound film the color could determine if its color or black and white. If it looks silver or grey then its b&w, if its orange then it could be color.

 

[sevo]

If you home develop, a snippet of the leader will tell. If you give it to a lab, glue the label back into place (and go over any still visible C-41 mentions with a felt pen) - if it really should be 200 ISO colour, it will still deliver a b+w negative that can be printed/scanned if processed as 200 ISO black and white, while b+w film processed in C41 will turn entirely blank and is lost...

 

[MartinP]

I'd suspect that the metal cartridge is just some sort of surplus or unused stock produced for a different sort of film, and therefore available cheaply for the packaging of the cut-price black-and-white film. No need to worry (probably).
😉

 

[Clovis]

If the film was really C-41, the leader would've had a orange-grey base colour on the emulsion side. If it was B/W it would've had a straight grey colour. You could just check one of your other rolls of the same film to confirm.

I would agree with Martin there, its probably the use of unused C-41 cartridge stocks.

 

[DRabbit]

Well the ruined part of the film (which wasn't in the canister, but still on the spool of the camera) looks a bluish grey color...

 

[Clovis]

Bluish-Grey would likely indicate B/W to me.

 

[akiatoji]

Looks like they used left over canisters meant for now-discontinued Aristacolor C-41 film....?

 

[DRabbit]

Thanks everyone...

I'll try developing what's left in the canister tomorrow... I think I lost about 10-12 frames.

I'm not sure why the film snapped/tore.... hopefully it was just a bad roll of film and not the camera... (my dad's old Olympus - this is my first time running film through).

 

[DRabbit]

Decided to develop them tonight... They came out fine so it was obviously not labeled wrong... just my own paranoia 😉

 

[ampguy]

interesting. I'd be interested in finding some kind of generic C-41 label to wrap around one of my rolls.

 

[sevo]

interesting. I'd be interested in finding some kind of generic C-41 label to wrap around one of my rolls.

Don't do that - black and white film (except for the chromogenics, which are already C-41 tagged) contains no colour couplers and will be bleached to clear film when the silver is removed in the bleach or blix.

The other way around works - developing C-41 (or even slide) film as black and white will deliver a visible result, and usually it is not even bad, especially if you scan. The biggest issue is the residual orange mask which makes it near impossible to print black and white developed CN film on variable contrast paper, as it biases the VC paper towards extra soft.

Sevo

 

[-doomed-]

I just finished a roll of foma 400 and found the same c-41 label under the foma label . One would conclude as someone had already done prior , it would seem that the just had a surplus of empty c41 canisters

 

[Kristopher]

Same here,

It seems that Foma is using surplus canisters...