Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Sounds like going about it the hard way. Why would the felt ring, or an O ring, not be simpler and satisfactory?
MrRom92
Established
It’s not that I haven’t tried barking up that tree, I’ve just had really limited (read: no) success with those options. Basically neither of them did anything to support/prop up the film cassette within the chamber.
Maybe if someone can post the exact dimensions of the o-ring they’ve been successfully using I can stop by a hardware store again and pick that up. Or maybe just even a photo of it relative to a 35mm cart I can try to match up to. If it works for someone it should work for anyone
sebastel
coarse art umbrascriptor
well ... no one has successfully fixed your camera, so how do you expect someone to be able to provide this kind of data?
and, there is one more .. you have the camera, you have film cartridges. what keeps you from looking at the point where the baseplate meets the spool, and figure out the dimensions on the spot? you might even able to measure them.
;-)
MrRom92
Established
Ehhhhh, unlikely. Too far above my paygrade. I don’t know my way around a set of calipers, I barely know my way around a set of chopsticks. I’m sure someone’s already figured out what works though, I could’ve sworn I read a few reports upthread about people having *some* luck with O-Rings. Or foam pads. Or what have you. Couldn’tve been the foam pads or o-rings I’ve tried, that’s for sure.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I don't think that all that cassette swapping is going to be sustainable! I think the O-ring idea sounds a little better than felt, since felt might collect dust. You could just buy 2 or 3 O-rings of various sizes, and start by trying out the smallest. If not good enough, try the next one. Even the smallest one will bring about some improvement.
I have two IIIcs. I have not noticed any misalignment, so it may vary by model year. One of mine is wartime, the other is postwar.
I have two IIIcs. I have not noticed any misalignment, so it may vary by model year. One of mine is wartime, the other is postwar.
David Hughes
David Hughes
If you look again at my old post (No 33) you might read between the lines that Leitz abandoned the FILCA in the early 30's and offered a free exchange for a type D or Agfa-Leica cassette.
Have you thought about getting one of them?
As for sizes, why not experiment with cardboard washers as padding? In your shoes I'd put one each end of the modern cassette; you'll see why if you look at the various links given. My reasoning is to position the film in the modern cassette exactly in line with the film guide and firmly in place.
Regards, David
Have you thought about getting one of them?
As for sizes, why not experiment with cardboard washers as padding? In your shoes I'd put one each end of the modern cassette; you'll see why if you look at the various links given. My reasoning is to position the film in the modern cassette exactly in line with the film guide and firmly in place.
Regards, David
MrRom92
Established
Well, I have the FILCA, and it works fine. But regardless of whichever reloadable cassette I have, the ideal thing would be to not use a reloadable cassette
at least, not when the intention isn’t to bulk load in the first place.Cardboard might be a good material to try, though I’m concerned it may not have enough “give”
I’m thinking something like the spring you might find in an old D battery terminal or something to that effect? A nice sized spring could provide just enough support as the canister needs. While also not interfering with the center spool
David Hughes
David Hughes
Card and paper have been used in the past to make light tight shims for lenses; it was lacquered. It also has the advantage that you can find it everywhere and experiment with various thicknesses.
Regards, David
Regards, David
Doug A
Well-known
Leitz did not abandon the FILCA at any time during the life of the thread-mount cameras. FILCA was the ordering code for the brass film cassette. When the dealer ordered a FILCA they received whatever FILCA type was current. There were four types: Type A was the very first version in the 1920's. By the 1930 it was replaced by the very similar Type B. Both of them have a knob on the bottom that is moved by a cam in the camera base to open and close the cassette.
With the introduction of the Leica II in 1932 there was a third FILCA type, the Type C. It looked somewhat like the Type A and B but there was no knob and the cassette did not open in the camera. There was a labyrinth arrangement in the cassette instead. And there was no cam in the earliest Leica II cameras. Leica soon offered to install a cam if customers wanted to use a Type A or B FILCA.
The other FILCA option for early Leica II owners was the Type D, also called the Leitz-Agfa. Like the Type C it had no knob on the bottom and worked with the early Leica II. It was the same height as the other three FILCA'a.
But by 1933 it appears that all the very early Leica II's had the cam added to the base because the only FILCA in the catalog was the Type B. That was the end of the road for the Type C and Type D. The FILCA Type B continued to be listed in all of the catalogs and described in the instructions up to and including the Leica Models C, F and G.
One note of warning: I have a couple of Type A FILCA's in my collection. They work just fine in my IIIc's but if I put them in the IIIf or IIIg they go in fairly easily but come out only with difficulty.
analoged
Well-known
I've read that FILCA C's are rare, I happen to have one that came in a lot of there FILCA's. Anyone know the approximate value? Actually not too much info on these on the worldwide web...
David Hughes
David Hughes
I couldn't agree more; I've been looking for all three type C's for some time or even a picture of one.
If anyone is interested there's a picture (a typical 30's technical illustration) in „ФЕД“ и „ЛЕЙКА“ or "FED and Leica" which was published in Moscow in 1935, on page 42. I've printed the title in Cyrillic as there's a copy on the internet somewhere but I can't find it fttb.
Regards, David
MrRom92
Established
I picked up a couple new differently sized o-rings as well as a spring. I’m currently loaded with film so it’ll be a bit before I can test, but I’ll report back with my findings when possible.