jawarden
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Hollywood is important, but not required for film to survive.
Skiff
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With all respect, but that is a myth. Spread for years by armchair experts with no knowledge of the industry. It has nothing to do with reality.
Fact is
- Ilford, Fujifilm, Foma, Adox, Agfa (Belgium) don't produce movie film for Hollywood. They don't need it, and of course they are not dependent on a product type they don't make.
- Eastman Kodak is the only producer of film for Hollywood. They were dependent on that in the past. But that has changed in the last years. Also because of the increasing demand for photo films they could continue in the future without cine film. It's more difficult without of course, but possible.
CMur12
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Hollywood is important to Kodak - how critically important I'm not sure. As far as I know, Hollywood isn't supporting any of the other film manufacturers.
- Murray
michaelwj
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No one "trying" anything is going to keep it alive. It's an increase of people using film on a regular basis that will keep it alive.
Archiver
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I'm keen to check out Film Never Die. They do have some rather pricey secondhand gear, apart from the whole film buying experience.
CharlesDAMorgan
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Just popped into the camera store in Plymouth. He is struggling to keep up with local demand from mostly 20-30 year olds for manual 35mm cameras and lenses. Lots of point and shoot cameras too (cheap ones). They are mostly students who buy things like the Pentax K1000 and are regularly in to buy film. He has just moved and has had a 20% increase in footfall and that is in February - later in the year should be bigger with tourists.
He's building a darkroom at the back of the shop and next month there will be a try it out day. He's also selling a lot more developing chemicals and hopes to start bulk buying from Ilford when he has the time.
Plymouth does have a photography degree course so that may well skew things, but the two young local girls in there trying out a Zenit were not in that category.
He's building a darkroom at the back of the shop and next month there will be a try it out day. He's also selling a lot more developing chemicals and hopes to start bulk buying from Ilford when he has the time.
Plymouth does have a photography degree course so that may well skew things, but the two young local girls in there trying out a Zenit were not in that category.
DominikDUK
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You are actually only partially right Fuji and Agfa still make release or archive Stocks. The latter is also used for long term storage of digital movies.
But I agree their survival is not linked to the movie industry Kodak on the other hand.In the last two years I've seen more and more under forties with analogue cameras I've also seen quiet a few film photography cooperatives pop up.
littleearth
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The city of Valencia (Spain) where I live. https://www.instagram.com/carmencitalab/
Scope79
Established
My daughter asked me today if I can develop film for her classmate who shot film for the first time. Honestly, I start to believe that film is coming back for real!
Dogman
Veteran
Maybe what's causing the uptick in film use is the number of excellent old film cameras available in huge quantities at very low prices.
Whatever, it's nice that film use is continuing even though I personally never shoot it anymore.
Whatever, it's nice that film use is continuing even though I personally never shoot it anymore.
MIkhail
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About 10 years ago I have taken courses in photography in local college for two years straight - it gave me an access to an excellent dark room and plus I wanted to learn the tool the right way. And it was cheaper than any other alternative.
Anyway, the point is: in each group that I took part of (which was 6 semesters I think ?) I was about the only person who took it for shear interest. The rest of people took it as one mandatory course of choice, presumably easier one than alternatives.
So... there is reality and there is wishful thinking, and they are not the same things
olifaunt
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The rest of people took it as one mandatory course of choice, presumably easier one than alternatives.
So... there is reality and there is wishful thinking, and they are not the same things
As taught here, it is a very time-consuming course with many hours weekly in the darkroom, not at all easy. It is also expensive in materials. Probably half or more of the students in my class are non-arts majors who have an interest in making art (and some are excellent at it).
olifaunt
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I was photographing some young skateboarding guys (probably around 18 years old) doing jumps in a city square. When one asked me what I was shooting, I answered that I was doing candid people and city scenes. He then said no, what he meant was what film... And we started talking about the films we liked and labs, etc.
CharlesDAMorgan
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Yes, I was in my favourite coffee shop and the guy serving was early 20s with a ginger beard etc, he asked about my Voigtlander, said he shot film too, and then we had a good chat about film, local darkrooms, the film camera dealer etc.
MIkhail
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Same was with me, and all these kids were complaining: "I took this course to avoid the difficult one, and it turned out really tough, what the hell..."
Teachers loved me there
I was about the only one in groups who was really interested in practicing and spent tons of time in darkroom... plus I was closer to their age than to age of students I guess I don't blame those kids, they had a degree to work toward, I was just there for fun.
Kind of like Rodney Dangerfield in "Back to School" ;-)
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Where I'm most of the colleges, if not all of them, have their darkrooms closed for good by now.
And labs as well.
And labs as well.
MIkhail
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I was lucky - the college withing two miles from my house, and excellent lab.
Don't know what it is now...
Interestingly, while in college, I won an "all paid" trip to Rochester NY to visit Eastman house and Rochester institute of Technology, and while on tour in institute, they were showing the darkrooms, etc. and at that time were telling us that it's probably last years of analog, they about to close it, old teachers retiring, etc.
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
I just did a street fair, I have a guitar table, and my son & myself bring our cameras since a street fair is great people shooting. Plenty of interest, but mostly because of hipster fashion, and "can you still buy film?" One girl told me she buys disposable cameras at Walgreens and returns them there to be processed, who knew?
olifaunt
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That's too bad. In my area a good number of colleges and universities within a 50 mile radius offer film darkroom courses. A film darkroom is designed into the new arts building that they are going to construct at my university, so it isn't going away.
We have lost the holiday and baby snapshooters, as well as day to day journalism, but we are gaining back a certain class of weddings, some fine-arts documentary photography (e.g., a lot of people documenting a (sub-)culture in a slower way), and if you subscribe to any magazines or newsletters featuring new or emerging fine arts photographers - they are practically all working in film, and doing some really interesting new things with it.
Skiff
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Sorry, double post.