Ronald M
Veteran
I have be somewhat anoyed the film sometimes slips down in my 111c so the exposure is not cenered. This presents no problem in a darkroom, but does cause a scanning problem.
My 111f base, which has a small arm to hold the film up, will not tranfer to the 111c, so getting a second base is not an option.
I did notice the same film can would shake in the c, not in the f.
My solution was three layers of masking tape cut to a circle and placed over the screw in the base. The film can does not move. About 1/4 '' diameter, you don`t want to hit the can, just the spool.
Someone here used a small spring, however I prefer not to make a noreverseable modification as the camera is mint with new curtains and CLA. My tape will wear as the spool turns, but then I will just put in new tape.
Try it, you will like it.
My 111f base, which has a small arm to hold the film up, will not tranfer to the 111c, so getting a second base is not an option.
I did notice the same film can would shake in the c, not in the f.
My solution was three layers of masking tape cut to a circle and placed over the screw in the base. The film can does not move. About 1/4 '' diameter, you don`t want to hit the can, just the spool.
Someone here used a small spring, however I prefer not to make a noreverseable modification as the camera is mint with new curtains and CLA. My tape will wear as the spool turns, but then I will just put in new tape.
Try it, you will like it.
P
pshinkaw
Guest
Daniel:
Are the Leitz cassettes for the IIIc and IIIf the same, or did they make dedicated cassettes?
-Paul
Are the Leitz cassettes for the IIIc and IIIf the same, or did they make dedicated cassettes?
-Paul
Xmas
Veteran
Ronald
The Leitz cassettes for the LTMs are 2mm or so longer so they dont rattle or allow the film to wander, they wont fit Ms.
The leitz casettes for the Ms will fit the LTMs but will rattle and may have opening/closing problems with some LTMs, as the opening follower is also the depth locator!
The finger was introduces by serial number rather then model, and I believe a good repair man can mill to allow a finger to be used or even fit a finger to your IIIc baseplate, when it is next being serviced, if it is a user this should not matter to much to value. I always use the LTM cassettes.
Noel
P.S. the long casettes are ok in IIIc or IIIf, the short ones may be more of a problem in IIIc
The Leitz cassettes for the LTMs are 2mm or so longer so they dont rattle or allow the film to wander, they wont fit Ms.
The leitz casettes for the Ms will fit the LTMs but will rattle and may have opening/closing problems with some LTMs, as the opening follower is also the depth locator!
The finger was introduces by serial number rather then model, and I believe a good repair man can mill to allow a finger to be used or even fit a finger to your IIIc baseplate, when it is next being serviced, if it is a user this should not matter to much to value. I always use the LTM cassettes.
Noel
P.S. the long casettes are ok in IIIc or IIIf, the short ones may be more of a problem in IIIc
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timd
Newbie
While we're on the subject of the Leitz cassettes, can someone take pity on me and explain how on earth you load them in a bulk loader? The damn things are like Russian dolls...
Xmas
Veteran
Tim
Only some of the loaders and day tanks support some of the concentrics.
The ones that do have a knob that you turn to close or open the cassette, as well a open or shot the film magazine knob, if you forget zapo...
Watson, Comptrol, Agfa Rondinux35, etc.,...
Noel
Only some of the loaders and day tanks support some of the concentrics.
The ones that do have a knob that you turn to close or open the cassette, as well a open or shot the film magazine knob, if you forget zapo...
Watson, Comptrol, Agfa Rondinux35, etc.,...
Noel
payasam
a.k.a. Mukul Dube
My solution -- and I'm ashamed to say that I forget who suggested it, right here on RFF -- is to put a conical spring under the cassette while closing the back of my IIIc. Exposures are perfectly centred, as the spring makes up for the 2.2mm difference in cassette length. It was a little fiddly, but only the first time.
timd
Newbie
Xmas said:
Aha - by sheer coincidence, I picked up an Alden loader a couple of weeks ago. It all makes sense now you mention it!
thomasw_
Well-known
i must be fortunate with my IIIc, because the ilford and kodak films i employ in the vast majority of my shooting have cassettes that do not slip. i have read other LTM users discuss this issue, and in a few instances this slipping was rectified by simply making sure that the film was trimmed and loaded tightly on the perforation gears and take up spool. a small thing to look for when slipping the leader under the spool clip: be sure it comes flush with and touches the inside edge of the spool while under the clip.
good cheer, thomas
good cheer, thomas
colyn
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I have figured out a very simple solution to the problem of film slipping down in the IIIc's and early III'f previous to the addition of the arm on the base plate and it looks more professional than spacing with masking tape..
Remove the base plate and take a look at the key assembly. You will notice the center screw which holds the key assembly together. Under the screw should be 2 washers. A small diameter washer and a larger diameter washer. These washers are approx. 2mm thick..
Now take the larger washer to the hardware store and find one the same or slightly larger diameter (must not be larger than the inside of the key where it will go) Check it with calipers to see if it is approx. the same thickness. Now paint it black.
Re-assemble without the smaller washer..
What this fix does is to limit the up/down movement of the film spool which will also limit the movement of the cassette itself which in turn will hold the film more in line..
Works for me...
Remove the base plate and take a look at the key assembly. You will notice the center screw which holds the key assembly together. Under the screw should be 2 washers. A small diameter washer and a larger diameter washer. These washers are approx. 2mm thick..
Now take the larger washer to the hardware store and find one the same or slightly larger diameter (must not be larger than the inside of the key where it will go) Check it with calipers to see if it is approx. the same thickness. Now paint it black.
Re-assemble without the smaller washer..
What this fix does is to limit the up/down movement of the film spool which will also limit the movement of the cassette itself which in turn will hold the film more in line..
Works for me...