Film Scanning Epson 4490 and 120 Konica 400 ISO C41

[jan normandale]

I've just shot a couple of rolls of C41 Konica 120 , had it processed and picked it up. Usually I have scans done but figured I'd do it this time.

First scan was dark, muddy and had a blue overtone... nothing like my Kodak or Fuji. I'm wondering if this is a colour reversal of an anti halation layer. If it is how do you deal with it in PS or in the 4490? I've searched the web a bit but found little about this problem. I doubt I'm the first so there's an answer somewhere I'm sure.

Help's appreciated

 

[jan normandale]

I posted this at 2.00 am.. so I'll give it a "bump"

 

[DeeCee3]

120 Transparencies

120 Transparencies

Jan, if you are scanning in "professional mode" be sure you've chosen POSITIVE for your choice and haven't left your 4490 set on color negative. I'm not at all sure that would produce the symptom you describe as I haven't done any 6x6 in my 4490.

I DID, however, do a fair amount in its predecessor and remember how disgusted I was in trying, over and over, to get a decent 120 scan (35mm slides were a piece of cake) and finally realizing the problem was pilot error, not the scanner.
After I checked-off "transparency" it got quite simple.

By the way, regardless of what others may say, I think the 4490 does a great job.

dc3

 

[DeeCee3]

Ooops!! You said C41, didn't you? I was thinking E6. Better go back to the drawing boards...! I still think there's a setting off somewhere, Jan.

dc3

 

[rich815]

I've always had problems with color balance when scanning Konica films. That and the "older" Fuji color emulsions like NPS and such.

 

[jan normandale]

LoL, Rich.. you're telling me things I don't want to hear!

I may take it back to the lab and have it scanned if I can't get a work around here. Anyone know of a 'scanner forum'? I did a search for one but not much meaningful came up on this topic.

BTW Rich.. what colour negative films do you like for scanning?

 

[rich815]

Hi Jan, yeah, when it comes to C-41 color films it can be a real hit-and-miss sometimes. Try Konica Portrait 160 someday! Ugh! I scan with an LS-4000 for 35mm and both an Epson 4990 and Nikon LS-9000 for MF. I use both the Epson and Nikon provided scan software and Vuescan. Sometimes certain C-41 color films are just a real bear to get right, especially when there seems to be color cross-overs (i.e., you correct for the blue, it plays havoc with the yellows or reds). Sure, you could select color ranges and try to treat each color independenty best you can but then it just gets ridiculous. The older Fuji NPH was also that way and supposedly the newer NPH is better but I still have trouble and find the Kodak 160 or 400 NC (not VC) to scan the best for nice MF 120 C-41 color film. 400UC sometimes ok, other times troublesome. For 35mm I find Fuji Reala (the 120 Fuji Reala is not the same), and Kodak Gold 100 and 200 to scan very nicely.

Thing is some color C-41 films can really give gorgeous results, NPH being one. But then it's sometimes best to have the films scanned by a Fuji Frontier machine to bring out the best color and results, IMO.

 

[jan normandale]

Rich, interesting comments. I've found the same. I just assumed it was me. Now it looks like I am going to stick w BW scanning on the 4490 and have the labs scan the colour.

Drat!