emmef2
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Hello, I have a question for owners of Super Ikonta III and IV 6x6 cameras (mod. 531/16 and 534/16):
I just bought a Super Ikonta mod. 534/16 and I see that the small window on the back, used to check if film is loaded in the camera, does not have the red plastic
Other Ikonta cameras have a much bigger window, protected by red plastic, that is needed to check the correct position of the frame when advancing film.
I am wondering if opening that small window can fog film, I would like if you could share your experiences about
thanks
I just bought a Super Ikonta mod. 534/16 and I see that the small window on the back, used to check if film is loaded in the camera, does not have the red plastic
Other Ikonta cameras have a much bigger window, protected by red plastic, that is needed to check the correct position of the frame when advancing film.
I am wondering if opening that small window can fog film, I would like if you could share your experiences about
thanks
Crazy Fedya
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I have never seen any effect on film, shot with my Super Ikonta III. Congrats on your new toy.
Ken Smith
Why yes Ma'am - it folds
While my Super Ikonta IV has the small window you mention, it also has the red plastic covering to the window.
Robert Lai
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Zeiss puts a felt donut around the window, to contact with the backing paper on the film. Thus, it is unlikely that it will fog the film, as the light will be trapped.
Many repair people can supply you with a new red window. Clarence Gass of Mission, KS says that he has plenty of red windows.
Many repair people can supply you with a new red window. Clarence Gass of Mission, KS says that he has plenty of red windows.
emmef2
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The felt donut seems a great suggestion, thanks all for your replies!
So far I have not been able to find online an image of a Super Ikonta III and IV film window showing the red plastic.
Thus I would appreciate if some of you can take couple of pics of the window with red plastic to let me figure out if I can add the plastic by myself or I have to look for a repairer.
Could another solution be simply putting black opaque tape on the small window from inside?
This is how the film window in my Super Ikonta looks:
As you can see the camera is in excellent condition
Many thanks!
So far I have not been able to find online an image of a Super Ikonta III and IV film window showing the red plastic.
Thus I would appreciate if some of you can take couple of pics of the window with red plastic to let me figure out if I can add the plastic by myself or I have to look for a repairer.
Could another solution be simply putting black opaque tape on the small window from inside?
This is how the film window in my Super Ikonta looks:
As you can see the camera is in excellent condition
Many thanks!
P C Headland
Well-known
My III doesn't have a red window either. In fact, none of the IIIs or IVs I've seen have them.
Ken Smith
Why yes Ma'am - it folds
Shots of the inside/outside of my SI IV w/red window.
RichL
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Mine has no red filter. Open it in my body shadow, see the paper, let if fall shut. it hasn't fogged yet using Ilford asa 100 and 400 film.
hanskerensky
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My SI III also has no red window.
As a matter of fact the color red for such a window is not a necessity unless you shoot with orthochromatic BW film which probably almost no ones does these days. Color films and panchromatic BW films are (allready 70 years long) sensitive for all colors so you could as well use gray glass to tamper the light falling through that small window.
As a matter of fact the color red for such a window is not a necessity unless you shoot with orthochromatic BW film which probably almost no ones does these days. Color films and panchromatic BW films are (allready 70 years long) sensitive for all colors so you could as well use gray glass to tamper the light falling through that small window.
emmef2
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Thanks all for your replies!
Ken yours is the first Super Ikonta mod. III or IV that I see with the supposedly original red window. This post made clear to me that is very rare to find one that still has it in place.
I agree on the limited usefulness of the red window with the current B&W films. Actually, I recently had one roll of Rollei Retro 400S, fogged because of the window (I believe the extended spectrum sensitivity of this film helped on that too!)
Ken yours is the first Super Ikonta mod. III or IV that I see with the supposedly original red window. This post made clear to me that is very rare to find one that still has it in place.
I agree on the limited usefulness of the red window with the current B&W films. Actually, I recently had one roll of Rollei Retro 400S, fogged because of the window (I believe the extended spectrum sensitivity of this film helped on that too!)