Filter solutions for 5cm Elmar 3.5?

[traveler_101]

I always thought VALOO was too heavy to be a hood for use 'in the field' and understood it to be primarily for darkroom use etc.

VOOLA seemed like a good idea but you have to unclamp the filter (or hood) to change aperture which rather destroys the point...still got one mind you.

I looked some of these Leica products but they set you back $60 or more. I just don't want to pay that kind of money.

 

[traveler_101]

Hi,

The Leitz filter seems OK to me but still a bit fiddly.

Regards, David

Wow that lens is in great shape!

 

[Monochrom]

I´ve used also a fikus in which i can attach a regular type of filter, first unscrew a thin rim then screw on a filter it not perfect but it works fine.

On my summar and elmar i used the fikus extended somewhere between 90-50. works great.

 

[davidnewtonguitars]

I know this is a zombie thread, but it is exactly relevant.
Just picked up a Kenko 19mm set for the Elmar
How do I figure the exposure compensation for each?
The edge-codes:
Orange YA3
Yellow Y2
Blue P0B
Green P00

 

[davidnewtonguitars]

Ok so I read a lot about filters, I thought the edge numbers may have something about exposure compensation, but I guess not.

 

[02Pilot]

Baseline I'd start with one stop for the yellow and yellow/green, two or three for the red; I have no idea about the blue, but it's an odd one that you probably won't use much. The effect, however, will depend a lot on the scene and what you want to get from it.

Another trick, if you happen to be use a reflected light meter (or a phone app, as I do), is to meter the scene, then hold the filter in front of the sensor and meter again. This will give you a more specific compensation factor.

 

[Spavinaw]

I can offer the following information from a Walz instruction sheet:

Filter Color Factor

YA3 Orange 3.0
Y2 Yellow 2.0
P00 Yellow-Green 2.0
P0B Blue Not on chart

Hope this helps.

 

[scigeek]

The Leica clamp-on yellow filter works well, and takes seconds to remove and replace, even with the Leica clamp-on hood in place on the filter. Still available cheaply on ebay if you look around. Note: They are also available at ridiculously high prices on ebay - don't pay it!

For the casual user (me) I really think the clamp-ons are the best option.

 

[WJJ3]

I know this is a zombie thread, but it is exactly relevant.
Just picked up a Kenko 19mm set for the Elmar
How do I figure the exposure compensation for each?
The edge-codes:
Orange YA3
Yellow Y2
Blue P0B
Green P00

Nice Find! are they coated?

as others have said

1 stop for yellow
1 stop for green
2 stops for red
*** uses blue?

(^^)

 

[scigeek]

I came across three clamp-on filters for the 3.5cm/5cm Elmar for £40 yesterday on ebay. £13 each - which I consider good value.

 

[02Pilot]

Thing about the clamp-ons is that you have to pop the filter off to change the aperture setting. Not a problem if you're just shooing at one aperture, but a pain if you aren't. The little screw-ins allow you to change the aperture without removing the filter.

 

[scigeek]

Thing about the clamp-ons is that you have to pop the filter off to change the aperture setting. Not a problem if you're just shooing at one aperture, but a pain if you aren't. The little screw-ins allow you to change the aperture without removing the filter.

I've never tried these, but I do take your point.
I don't find it a chore to remove the clamp-on filter to change aperture, probably because I'm so slow at operating my 111c anyway!

One thing about the clamp-ons - they are nice and tight on the lens.

 

[jonmanjiro]

Having to remove the filter each time you want to change the aperture is a deal breaker for me. Sounds like right royal PITA actually. 19mm filters would be much more practical.

On the subject of changing the aperture, I spotted this Elmar on the YJ auctions recently and wondered about the little prongs on the inside of the hood. It looks like they're designed so the aperture selector would sit in-between them and you adjust the aperture by rotating the hood. Just a guess though as I didn't win (or bid on) the auction so haven't seen the hood and lens in person. Is anyone using a hood like this? Seems like a much easier way to adjust the aperture (assuming I'm right about how the hood functions).

 

[besk]

With the 19mm filters in use, I now need a proper lenscap to fit over them.

 

[scigeek]

With the 19mm filters in use, I now need a proper lenscap to fit over them.

An every-ready case does the job.

 

[davidnewtonguitars]

When I first started looking for a 19mm filter, red or yellow, I was finding Leica brand for silly money.
Just keep looking, searching "19mm filter" or "Argus filter" or "Elmar filter".
I got the set of 4, unused in a leather case, wrapped in tissue, for $40.

 

[02Pilot]

Yeah, my set of five filters (yellow, light red, UV, warming and cooling) plus screw-in hood came in similar shape for something like $20 IIRC. I'd love to find a light green filter to add to the set.

 

[davidnewtonguitars]

How would you use a light green filter?
For landscape to delineate different foliage?

 

[02Pilot]

Mostly, though I prefer it to yellow for general-purpose use as well (when using a filter at all). In general it produces a bit of a softer look than yellow.

This is taken with a Summar wide-open with a light green filter, so it's lower contrast than the Elmar would be, but at least you can see a little bit of the effect.

 

[iphoenix]

I spotted this Elmar on the YJ auctions recently and wondered about the little prongs on the inside of the hood. It looks like they're designed so the aperture selector would sit in-between them and you adjust the aperture by rotating the hood. Seems like a much easier way to adjust the aperture (assuming I'm right about how the hood functions).

Totally correct.