Finally happened -- inspector did not want to do hand inspection ...

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McCarran Airport, Las Vegas, Terminal C, Southwest. Usually Monday morning is very crowded and zooey, but this was an early flight and I was early for it, just after 5:00 (too {expletive} early!) in the morning, and it was not busy at all.

I had all the ducks in a row, maybe 20 assorted rolls, some exposed, some unexposed, all in a baggie, none in canisters, all ready to inspect. The conversation went like this:

Me: (holding up baggie) May I have a hand inspection on this, please.
He: If it's less than 800 it goes through the machine.
Me: I would like a hand inspection, please.
He: Is is 800?
Me: Some of it is.
He: Take out the 800, put the rest through the machine.
Me: I would like a hand inspection on all of it, please.
He: I don't know if I can do that.
Me: Can you find out, please.

He grumbled and took the baggie and walked off, and I proceeded to do the requisite strip-tease in order to pass through the metal detector.

When I got through and got dressed again for the second time this morning, the guy was standing there with a supervisor who was kind of fumbling with the bag. The supervisor told the inspector to "go help out on aisle 5" or something like that and he asked if the bag was mine, and then he motioned for me to follow him.

He led me over to a little booth which had not one, but two Nasty-Stuff-O-Matic detector machines. He took out maybe 5 of the rolls and carefully swabbed them off with a circular wipe, then put the wipe in the Nasty-Stuff-O-Matic, which gave a yellow (not green for some reason) indication on each one, then he put them back in the baggie, smiled (>SHOCK<) and handed back to me. I then went on my way to catch the shuttle train to the gate.

I assume the guy was kinda new. He really didn't refuse, but he sure tried to discourage the hand inspection.

First time I've ever had that happen.

Oh well, so it goes ... and so do I. 🙂
 
Modern cabin luggage scanners are ultrasonic, not x-ray, and as such are harmless for any kind of film. If you look on their display they show stuff colored in artificial colors depending on density.

Heard that from a guy who sets up those machines for airports.
 
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1035.shtm

I usually have a copy of this with me in case they resist. It would be great if RFF members from other countries could point us to their version of the TSA and its photo page.

I do the same when I bring my backpacking equipment. I slip my camping stove (no gas or fuel canister) in a zip lock bag with the TSA print out regarding camping equipment. This way if some TSA inspector opens my bag while I am not there, they will hopefully see what the regulation is.

Anybody have any experience in Italy and the UK? Looks like that's where I'll be vacationing this summer.
 
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varjag said:
Modern cabin luggage scanners are ultrasonic, not x-ray, and as such are harmless for any kind of film. If you look on their display they show stuff colored in artificial colors depending on density.

Heard that from a guy who sets up those machines for airports.

Eugene, that may be the case in Europe, but in the US, by TSA's own admission, their machines in the US can affect film and not just high speed film.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1035.shtm
 
rogue_designer said:
Unless I've got 120 and 4x5 stuff. Then I insist as much as I'm comfortable doing.

I was very careful to be very assertive but remain polite and not go into bitchmode (which can happen if somebody pushes me the wrong way). I know those inspectors can make a trip to the airport very miserable if they want to, so I was not in any way going to get nasty.

I do know that the TSA site says that film of any speed that has gone through the machine {mumble} times should be hand inspected, so that implies to me that hand inspection is a service they intend to offer on all film.
 
It's not worth the bother. I've lived in the US and China and have traveled extensively throughout Europe and SE Asia many times. I've put through dozens and dozens of 35mm and 120 rolls of B&W, color neg and slide, (exposed and unexposed), sometimes multiple times, through carry-on x-ray machines in airports big and small all over the world and have NEVER seen any evidence of any problem. Never.
 
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rich815 said:
That's CHECKED luggage scanners. BIG difference.

Never put your film in your checked bags.

Agreed - but if you read a little further down...

If the same roll of film is exposed to X-ray inspections more than 5 times before it is developed, it is possible that damage may occur. Protect your film by requesting a hand-inspection for your film if it has already passed through the carry-on baggage X-ray screening equipment more than five times.

Also - you are lucky. I also have travelled a bit, and I have seen very clear evidence of radiation fogging on 4x5 film, and some of my roll film. Notably losing about 40 frames (total, out of dozens of rolls of 120) after a trip to Europe in '02. I won't let them scan it if I don't have to.
 
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the effects of x-ray on film do not seem consistent. I have seen several people report that they never bother with hand inspection and never had film be damaged by it, but I have also seen fogged film. A guy in my recent class left his Tri-X go through the machine (carry-on, not checked luggage). He had to do a 140 second exposure to get a frame to print in the wet darkroom. For me it's not worth taking a chance when the pics might be valuable.
 
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