Find a used M9-P instead of going with an X-Pro2?

Ken Ford said:
This. I've been down that path many, many times with cameras, musical instruments and other things. I tend to go with what seems rational instead of what I really like, and in the end I end up with the latter after a lot of pain.

Maybe I should just cut to the chase, suck it up, get a late model Leica and enjoy it.
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You only pay for it one time. You use it for a very long time. Longer if it isn't what you wanted.
 
I don't get why some advocate using a crop sensor camera over a full frame. Why would I buy a fuji if I want my 35 to be a 35 and my 50 to be a 50? The user experience of manual focus using a rangefinder patch over AF and live view are just as important to me. With regard to iso performance, the M9 at 400 and 800 is all I need as I shoot it like i've got film in it. Did I mention the CCD look? I can tell the difference between my Nikon full frame files and my M9's. If I want high iso and speed I'll use my Nikon's which are also obsolete according to some but strangely along with my M9 still continue to capture good photographs. If some need the latest gadget to do so then perhaps a rethink is required regarding technique and not equipment.
Congrats on the 240 Ken.
 
nobbylon said:
I don't get why some advocate using a crop sensor camera over a full frame. Why would I buy a fuji if I want my 35 to be a 35 and my 50 to be a 50? The user experience of manual focus using a rangefinder patch over AF and live view are just as important to me. With regard to iso performance, the M9 at 400 and 800 is all I need as I shoot it like i've got film in it. Did I mention the CCD look? I can tell the difference between my Nikon full frame files and my M9's. If I want high iso and speed I'll use my Nikon's which are also obsolete according to some but strangely along with my M9 still continue to capture good photographs. If some need the latest gadget to do so then perhaps a rethink is required regarding technique and not equipment.
Congrats on the 240 Ken.
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That was why I could never get excited about the M8 - the crop. The only way I would have gone Fuji was with a full suite of their lenses. I think I'll be much happier with the M-P, just poorer.
 
nobbylon said:
I don't get why some advocate using a crop sensor camera over a full frame.
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Did you read the thread title?

Why would I buy a fuji if I want my 35 to be a 35 and my 50 to be a 50? The user experience of manual focus using a rangefinder patch over AF and live view are just as important to me.
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These were talked about.

With regard to iso performance, the M9 at 400 and 800 is all I need as I shoot it like i've got film in it.
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The key word being "I" ...most are talking to the OP who was asking about two cameras.

Did I mention the CCD look? I can tell the difference between my Nikon full frame files and my M9's.
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It was mentioned... and for every CCD lover there is a CMOS lover.
 
I could make the same argument about why people would bother using full frame when there are medium format options available. FF vs APSC is hardly a big difference. Only downside would be the existing lenses you already have not being the same focal length.

nobbylon said:
I don't get why some advocate using a crop sensor camera over a full frame.
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mdwsta4 said:
I could make the same argument about why people would bother using full frame when there are medium format options available. FF vs APSC is hardly a big difference. Only downside would be the existing lenses you already have not being the same focal length.
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Same focal length, just different field of view. For some existing lenses you can also keep the field of view the same while also increasing light grabbing ability.

I love that I can put the tiny 35 f2 on the Xp2 but when I want to can put on a wide variety of other lenses. Lets me use the camera for a huge number of situations.

Shawn
 
What he said...

nobbylon said:
I don't get why some advocate using a crop sensor camera over a full frame. Why would I buy a fuji if I want my 35 to be a 35 and my 50 to be a 50? The user experience of manual focus using a rangefinder patch over AF and live view are just as important to me. With regard to iso performance, the M9 at 400 and 800 is all I need as I shoot it like i've got film in it. Did I mention the CCD look? I can tell the difference between my Nikon full frame files and my M9's. If I want high iso and speed I'll use my Nikon's which are also obsolete according to some but strangely along with my M9 still continue to capture good photographs. If some need the latest gadget to do so then perhaps a rethink is required regarding technique and not equipment.
Congrats on the 240 Ken.
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jsrockit said:
Did you read the thread title?

yes



These were talked about.

can I not give an opinion then?



The key word being "I" ...most are talking to the OP who was asking about two cameras.

And 'I' gave MY opinion about one over the other



It was mentioned... and for every CCD lover there is a CMOS lover.

I have both, like both and use them both.
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Each to their own but in the end Ken made a choice for himself and I'm sure he'll be happy with it as you obviously are with your fuji
 
nobbylon said:
Each to their own but in the end Ken made a choice for himself and I'm sure he'll be happy with it as you obviously are with your fuji
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I'd be happy with either... I was just pointing out that the thread title led people to pick sides... regarding crop factor.
 
papaki said:
With X-Pro2 you get better image quality, better in camera processing, much less noise to name just a few.
Would you use a Canon 10D today? It had been in the past a top digital camera.
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The X-Pro2 has better IQ than the M9? :rolleyes:

(Actually, some would argue that the M9, with its CCD sensor, has the best low-ISO IQ of any camera.)
 
I guess I'm too late to the party to suggest that, along with the M9, film Leicas have become obsolescent too. Everyone knows you can't shoot a decent picture with an M4-P, an M6, M7, and now, an M9.

Just my little brand of sarcasm. Enjoy your M-P M240. The biggest impediment to me for making images that I'm proud of seems to be just finding the time to get out the door with that one goal in mind.
 
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