haempe
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What makes a "wet print" to a "fine art print"?
Is there a definition or something like a rule?
Someone can enlighten me?
Is there a definition or something like a rule?
Someone can enlighten me?
Fine art print?
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Calzone
Gear Whore #1
My definition is a print that has archival standards that is meant to be exhibited. Generally this translates into printing larger rather than smaller, where quality, technic and materials are all held to the highest standards possible.
Hope this helps, but by no means is my definition definitive.
Cal
Photo_Smith
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There is no such thing as a 'fine art print' it's a b0ll0¢ks term to sell art.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
To achieve archival standards the paper has to be fixed and washed in such a way that the chemical residues in it fall below certain levels to prevent fading. This extends the life of the print. In digital printing, the inks and paper are such that they are somewhat guaranteed not to fade if handled and stored properly for years set as forth by the manufacturer and the Wilhelm Imaging Research.
haempe
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Thanks all.
Ok, I'm familiar with archival standard, in my book every wet print should achieve this.
Cal, ...highest standards possible... is plausible but quite vague.
Photo_Smith, I know, but what should one expect from a so called print?
Ok, I'm familiar with archival standard, in my book every wet print should achieve this.
Cal, ...highest standards possible... is plausible but quite vague.
Photo_Smith, I know, but what should one expect from a so called print?
Roger Hicks
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Well, in all fairness, it might mean 'a properly processed print'. Generally, though, I'd agree it should rhyme with rowlocks.
Cheers,
R.
haempe
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Ok, message received.
Maybe I had should give more background info for a better advice.
I'm doing sometimes darkroom work for photo students (prints for small exibitions or portfolios) and every second ask for "fine art prints".
With the time I'm so annoyed and tired to explain what I do and what not, so I was thinking about using the term...
and wanted to know what it means among experts...
But if it's in the original language already means nothing ... I will avoid that. 😉
Maybe I had should give more background info for a better advice.
I'm doing sometimes darkroom work for photo students (prints for small exibitions or portfolios) and every second ask for "fine art prints".
With the time I'm so annoyed and tired to explain what I do and what not, so I was thinking about using the term...
and wanted to know what it means among experts...
But if it's in the original language already means nothing ... I will avoid that. 😉
jsrockit
Moderator
Why are photo students not doing their own darkroom work?
haempe
Well-known
You have really to ask? 😀
The good ones do their homework themselves, some lazy ones give their badly exposed crap to me. *
To be fair, the most will never again holding a film camera in hand in their lifetime, so why should they lose time with a outlived process...
Edit: (*) Don't take that too seriously...
ath
Well-known
In that case I would answer: sure, fine art print is 50% more...
mfogiel
Veteran
I'd say, that what they mean, is that you should correct their scr***'up negatives in the darkroom or PS, and produce a good looking print, that's all. In my mind, the so called "fine art" prints can be translated most of the time as "custom crafted". It is the viewer, and ultimately, the buyer, who decides what is art and what not, everything else is silence.
Roger Hicks
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MartinP
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It's a marketing term.
I suppose you could also decide that a "fine art print" is a completed print made to the standards required, and monitored, by the artist (which could include intentional degradation over time, so the archival thing is totally irrelevant in my opinion), while a wet print is . . what?? . . any silver print, so including contacts, work-prints, proofs etc. and of which "fine art prints" are a subset?? Something like that.
EDIT: And not forgetting, the work and cooperation required from the printer, in order to meet the precise requirements of the artist, would be much higher - hence so would the pricing also be much higher.
😉
V-12
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A 'fine art' print is something done to the very highest standards from authenticity to the original concept to the mounting and presentation. It can be any size, indeed if it was an 8x10 contact print it could be even more highly prized than a 40x50. This is because whatever the size, the photographer being a 'fine artist', wouldn't sell out his original vision or concept for commercially driven images sold by the square foot.
back alley
IMAGES
i thought that fine art referred to the content of the image...?
RAZOR
Established
I agree with this initial response. After all, content is the interpretation of the creator where art is concerned.
Colin Corneau
Colin Corneau
You might as well ask what 'art' is -- just as vague and pointless a process.
Seems like a minimum standard of quality (which, as mentioned, should be there anyway) but it's as much the subject matter portrayed, it seems to me.
Seems like a minimum standard of quality (which, as mentioned, should be there anyway) but it's as much the subject matter portrayed, it seems to me.
Roger Hicks
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Ronald M
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A well done print to archival standards worth of an exhibit. Best if toned and printed on something other than plastic paper.
Thardy
Veteran
I think two separate things are being discussed.
" Fine art " is a type of photography, and "fine print" is a photographic print made to the highest standards as far as quality. Ansel Adams talks about it in The Print.
" Fine art " is a type of photography, and "fine print" is a photographic print made to the highest standards as far as quality. Ansel Adams talks about it in The Print.
