Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Recently got a FED-5 with an Industar-61 (as a present).
Got my first roll back today (plain vanilla Fuji Superia). Not bad at all! Sadly, the finder is so dirty that critical focusing is hit and miss.
However, in two shots I noticed something strange. What is this?
Got my first roll back today (plain vanilla Fuji Superia). Not bad at all! Sadly, the finder is so dirty that critical focusing is hit and miss.
However, in two shots I noticed something strange. What is this?

rxmd
May contain traces of nut
May be a light leak. Can you post the other one?
Highway 61
Revisited
I guess the RFF FSU sub-forum would have its place in the Guinness Book when it comes to those terrific light leaks.
Yes it's a light leak, probably from the camera back hinge.
Yes it's a light leak, probably from the camera back hinge.
rxmd
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Yeah, that's another of our records here! I think there were more Zorki-4's alone produced than all M Leicas put together, so the occasional one with a light leak doesn't really hurt the statistics... And we learn to fix them with bubble gum and sticky tape instead of sending them off to CLAs where the postage is more expensive than our camera.I guess the RFF FSU sub-forum would have its place in the Guinness Book when it comes to those terrific light leaks.
Philipp
nzeeman
Well-known
looks like a light leak to me - but since it is blue/white it comes from front side of film. it is orange if its from the back. probably your curtains have some space between them while winding it. try to wind it without back and look at some light source for leak between curtains.
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Hmm, I wonder why there is no evidence of this in (most) other pics? I walked around with it in very strong sunlight, no problems, only for the first picture of the day. Here is the other example:
It's not a bad camera at all, and the lens is especially nice. Pity it isn't worth CLA-ing. I know many people take great pleasure in working on these cams themselves, but I don't have the skills, nor the time to acquite them (I'd rather be out shooting).

It's not a bad camera at all, and the lens is especially nice. Pity it isn't worth CLA-ing. I know many people take great pleasure in working on these cams themselves, but I don't have the skills, nor the time to acquite them (I'd rather be out shooting).
rxmd
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That could be between the curtains indeed, maybe they have a spacing problem between the two curtains along the lower edge. Maybe the second curtain is sitting a little bit diagonally and not closing properly.
If it's only for the first picture of the day, do you store the camera with a cocked or uncocked shutter?
If it's only for the first picture of the day, do you store the camera with a cocked or uncocked shutter?
Highway 61
Revisited
What you wrote is true with negative film (because of the orange mask of the negative).looks like a light leak to me - but since it is blue/white it comes from front side of film. it is orange if its from the back.
Not with slides film (which Ronald used there). With slides film, the light leaks are all a pale blue halo, wherever they come from (back or front).
rxmd
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If I understand his first posting correctly, he uses Fuji Superia which is a negative film.What you wrote is true with negative film (because of the orange mask of the negative). Not with slides film (which Ronald used there).
Philipp
Highway 61
Revisited
Oooops sorry, I had read Fuji Sensia.If I understand his first posting correctly, he uses Fuji Superia which is a negative film.
Philipp
So : light leak coming from the front of the shutter, well like Sjdan said. Probably light bouncing around the shutter frame casting at the bottom left (light leak at the up right on a positive) of the shutter while looking at the shutter from the back of the camera.
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
I usually leave my shutter cocked. Do it also in my other manual cams (Nikons, my Leica M2). Any reason not to with a FED?
Maybe the leaks are caused by taking the lens off in too bright light with the shutter cocked? That's one to remember for this particular camera. Won't use it it that much though, with a CLA'd M2 handy. But it is nice to know that it works and can give nice results,
Btw, it was indeed negative film and I scan myself. The problem is definitely in the negs.
Maybe the leaks are caused by taking the lens off in too bright light with the shutter cocked? That's one to remember for this particular camera. Won't use it it that much though, with a CLA'd M2 handy. But it is nice to know that it works and can give nice results,
Btw, it was indeed negative film and I scan myself. The problem is definitely in the negs.
Highway 61
Revisited
This is my favorite avatar of yours because I liked Jacques Dufilho very much.
Highway 61
Revisited
Jacques Dufilho, a great actor (died in 2005).

rxmd
May contain traces of nut
I don't think there is a hole in the curtain because that would appear on all negatives, not just in the first of the day. I was wondering that maybe there is a tensioning problem that causes the lower edge of the shutter to drift when cocked.My guess is that when Ronald gets back, he'll tell us he leaves the shutter un-cocked over-night, therefore, a hole in the second curtain.
The Soviet solution would be to shoot a blank frame after storage.
Philipp
brachal
Refrigerated User
Could it have something to do with the shutter misbehaving on certain speeds, but not all speeds? That might be the common element.
Blake Werts
Established
I don't think there is a hole in the curtain because that would appear on all negatives, not just in the first of the day. I was wondering that maybe there is a tensioning problem that causes the lower edge of the shutter to drift when cocked.
This may not always be the case. I have a FED-3 with a very, very small pin-prick of a hole that only "opens up" once every other roll. If I examine the curtains in the dark, with a flashlight shining through the lens opening, I can occasionally spot the little booger shining like a tiny little star when I'm engaging the shutter. I just have not yet "sealed" the little hole--I don't have the proper materials.
nzeeman
Well-known
and have you checked if your cutains is tight during whole winding. i had same leak on my old zenit when they had a small hole between them while winding.
fanshaw
Well-known
When you get a 'new' old camera it is a good idea to wind and fire the shutter for about 50 times before shooting with film. Often cameras have not been used for years and the shutter needs some exercise to make the curtains close properly, especially at 1/30 sec.
Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Come to think of it, it does not seem speed related. The pic of the truck was in blazing sunlight, so at a relatively high shutter speed. The girl was at 1/60th.
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