first soup after 30+ years

lynnb

lynnb

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I blush to admit it, but it's been over 30 years since I've souped some film in my 40-yr-old Paterson developing tank. However the number of exposed rolls in the fridge awaiting development finally reached embarrassing proportions, threatening to displace ancient jars of pickles and an assortment of unintended biological experiments destined for the kitchen bin.

Here then are the first scans from a roll of HP5, souped in Rodinal 1:25 for 8 minutes, scanned on a V700 and pp'd in LR4.2.

reef view
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beach
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1 plus 4
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smile!
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on the rock platform
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I really like the grain.

If any of you knowledgeable folks can give me any feedback on the processing results I would much appreciate it. I'm not experienced at analysing faults in developed negs so any help is appreciated. I notice a water mark on the beach shot..

Cheers,
 
Nice pics, lynn.
But I doubt that it makes sense to make comments about the development based on digitally processed scans.
 
thanks haempe. Silly me. I should have realised that.
The negs look like they have good density. I have no idea if HP5 should look like this grainy when it's developed in Rodinal as described above. I also have some D76. I have lots to learn here..
 
Lynn, nice shots! Glad to see you immersed in the material world (even though you have shown some truly sublime digital images).

I have a "lesser" scanner than yours and do not see that grain introduced - I do not believe it is the scanner.

As I complained in another thread I have not got that level of grain with Rodinal, but I am always using 1:50. I think the grain is attained at higher concentration (Roger surely knows). I will give 1:25 a go next time.

Randy
 
Rangefinderfreak said:
The negs look that grainy also because of the scanner. I think you can judge the quality only when printed.
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I disagree with this because I have shot the same type film, developed in Perceptol or D76 & my scans are smooth. When I use rodinal my scans on the same scanner look grainy. I just haven't found the right technique with rodinal. BTW I use mostly HC110 & the scans are not as grainy.
 
Late in the day I've come across Chris Crawford's helpful advice - and here - thanks Chris for publishing that!

Roger, I tried to follow the link on your web site for "Developer, choosing" and I get "Negative Development Technique". (The first time I tried the link I got an error message). Do you have anything about the pros and cons of different developers with different films?

Lots of fun ahead. I've only ever used D76 and Ilford developers in decades past, so I'm looking forward to experimenting.

Another question - I have a roll of Panatomic X that I exposed about 35 years ago, still undeveloped, rediscovered in a filing cabinet. From memory, I shot landscapes in bright sun with it. Can anyone recommend a developer that will give me fine grain and good tonal range for this film? I have D76, but if there's something more appropriate, I'd appreciate some advice.

Thanks,
 
gb hill said:
I disagree with this because I have shot the same type film, developed in Perceptol or D76 & my scans are smooth. When I use rodinal my scans on the same scanner look grainy. I just haven't found the right technique with rodinal. BTW I use mostly HC110 & the scans are not as grainy.
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Just asking: have you printed your 35mm negatives with a cold light enlarger ...
 
I've only just started using film so can't give advice that's worth much...but I have developed Ilford Pan 400 with rodinal 1:100 and the grain was :eek:

In D76 the grain was a lot smoother.
 
thanks all for the comments and advice.

I found this info on Panatomic X developers (see comment by Bill Clark), but no info on what sort of results each will give:
D-76 full strength stock 7 min @68 degrees
D-76 (1:1) 9 minutes at 68 degrees
Microdol-X full strength stock 9 minutes at 68 degrees
Microdol-X (1:3) 13 minutes at 70 degrees. Not recommended for temps. less than 70 degrees.
HC-110 (Dilution B) 4 1/2 minutes at 68 degrees

Can anyone with knowledge of these developers advise how they would compare with this film?

thanks,
 
Lynn. I suggest you send Tom A a PM & a link to this thread about the Panatomic X. He can probably get you in the ballpark.
 
I've been shooting APX 100, Acros 100 or Neopan 400 and developing in Rodinal 1+50 and have never seen grain that big...I have one roll of HP5 and 400TX I've been saving for a special occasion...maybe I should try for the big grain...
 
lynnb said:
I have a roll of Panatomic X that I exposed about 35 years ago, still undeveloped, rediscovered in a filing cabinet. From memory, I shot landscapes in bright sun with it. Can anyone recommend a developer that will give me fine grain and good tonal range for this film? I have D76, but if there's something more appropriate, I'd appreciate some advice.
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Hello,
I would use the straight D-76, maybe give it a bit of extra development, maybe 10%?? There will be a bit of base fog, but I'll bet it's still surprisingly good :rolleyes: You should be able to burn through the extra base fog density when you scan it. Good Luck! -Dan

PS Also suggest that you wait to hear on this FX question from TomA. BTW nice grain shots with that Rodinal.
 
Hi Lynn

Nice shots.

No shortage of advice for you Lynn, not sure I can add anything but...

I have been using Rodinal for while, well the Adox Adonal version anyway and I have had similar results using it on HP5+ and other 400 asa films. I find any over exposure makes the grain even more defined but your grain is very strong so I'm guessing it has increased with higher concentration of developer you used .Unless I'm after the grain find D76 gives better results on faster films. I use the Rodinal on slower films typically Agfa APX100 which makes a very nice combination.
Dev at 50:1 is 13min at 20C

HP5+ when I have used Rodinal is 50:1 11mins at 20C

This one is HP5 in Rodinal - Not as much grain as your shots though
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Hi Lynn,

No too bad for the first try after while:)

I dont't use Rodinal for 35mm film - to big grain from my point of view in most cases. For hp5 I usually use either xtol or Microphen, both diluted at least 1+1. Times based on Digital Truth + 1m if I'm printing on Focomat on Graded (2) paper.

Hope it helps,
 
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