Focussing limits for R2

DavidK

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Hi

I am new to this forum - hello everyone! I am also fairly new to the Bessa, although one of my first cameras (20-25 years ago) was a Konica Auto S3, which I still have and use. Well, until some muppet bashed it as part of a recent CLA, but that is a different story 🙁 . I bought an R2 and the CV 15/4.5 a year or so ago, mainly because I wanted an ultrawide for interior architectural shots in cramped places. Great little lens, although a challenge to my compositional skills! I also got the CV 75/2.5 Skopar at the same time, more as an experiment than anything else. Most recently I've bought the CV 35/1.7 Ultron, ostensibly because we were off to Lapland for Xmas this year and there was a chance (nil as it happened) of seeing the Northern Lights. Manual camera with fast 35mm lens sounded perfect for work at -20oC. Anyway, the "but darling seeing the aurora will be a once-in-a-lifetime chance and you will want some pictures, won't you?" was an effective excuse to give my wife as I brandished the VISA card 🙂

All three lenses are great. The 35/1.7 Ultron in particular is quite a revelation after years of zoom lenses on SLRs. However, I am still getting to grips with focussing compared to an SLR, and am not sure whether it is me, the camera, or simply too high expectations. The problem occurs with both the 75/2.5 and 35/1.7 when used close (~2m) and fully open. Both seem fine when stopped down (for obvious DOF reasons) and when set at infinity (for distant subjects, obviously!). However, for close things I often miss the critical focus. Wierdly, I inevitably end up with a shot where the plane of focus is 6" or so beyond what I thought I was focussing on.

Now if this was simply my sloppy technique I would have expected (wouldn't I?) an equal number of shots where the focus point was in front of the subject, as well as behind it, but this doesn't seem to be the case. I am being naive here?

I gather from reading threads on this forum that the hardest job with respect to focussing will be for something close with the lens wide open, and that at some point the baseline of the rangefinder will impose a design limit on the ability to focus accurately. Does anyone have a feel for what the limits are for these two lenses, especially when wide open, with respect to closest working distance that the R2 can reliably focus on? In other words, am I simply pushing the capabilities of the R2 design beyond its sensible limits for reproducible and reliable focussing?

As a final comment, I don't think I have a dodgy R2. The rangefinder images seem aligned when both lenses are set at infinity and I look at a telegraph pole on the horizon.

Any thoughts and advice gratefully received!
 
IMHO, 6" off is too much to be caused by being sloppy. A couple of inches off is more likely caused by sloppyness, and with the 75/2.5 wide open it is pretty obvious.

Why don't you try to bolt down the camera on tripod and take photos of a ruler? Use both lenses. If both lenses give you off-focus photos, then it is the body. Otherwise it is the lens.
 
Kris offers a good suggestion, to assure you one way or the other what the camera is doing. There's a possibility the RF is out of calibration, and yet another possibility is method of usage... For instance, under the circumstances you describe, close-in and wide-aperture, you may focus and then steady yourself for a slow shutter exposure. In the process of steadying, or "hunkering down" it's very possible to move or lean forward slightly, even a matter of inches.

Bolting the camera down and viewing those results should give you the answer. Welcome to RFF, David!
 
Kris said:
Why don't you try to bolt down the camera on tripod and take photos of a ruler? Use both lenses. If both lenses give you off-focus photos, then it is the body. Otherwise it is the lens.
Another method that doesn't rely on using film is to tape a piece of ground glass to the film plane. Open the shutter ("B" with a locking cable) and use the rangefinder to focus on an object. Then check sharpness on the ground glass using an 8 or 10x loupe. All of this while the camera is mounted on a tripod, of course.

You can even use the rule to see how close critical focus is. I use printed text well lighted with a flood light.

Walker
 
Hi

I've finally done this - the hardest thing was finding something to use as a ground glass screen! I think everything is OK, but it has just emphasised for me that wide open and close in is right on the limit for this lens and that I need to be careful with my focussing under these conditions. I did some shots (carefully!) yesterday and they were fine.

I have posted a thread ("How to check focussing on a RF - tips") on the general RF thread as to how I did this check, if anyone else would like to have a go.

Thanks for all the advice.

David
 
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