kshapero
South Florida Man
My 16 year old grandson has become film SLR guy ( He has a Nikon FE and a non working Nikkormat FTN.) We were talking and agreeing that image quality isn't everything and that sometimes just getting the shot is what counts. We old film guys get that. Then he threw a loopy at me. He said if that is the case then we don't I just get a DSLR with a super zoom (18-300) so that I always get the shot. Wow, I was silenced for a moment. Does he have a point?


charjohncarter
Veteran
He could be right. For a sixteen year old, slow deliberation with patience isn't an option.
kshapero
South Florida Man
He could be right. For a sixteen year old, slow deliberation with patience isn't an option.
Yes, but youth and innocence can often offer insight, plus occasionally a dose of obnoxiousness.
charjohncarter
Veteran
Yes, but youth and innocence can often offer insight, plus occasionally a dose of obnoxiousness.
Obnoxiousness, no, we didn't deal in that characteristic when we were at that tender age. (or did we?)
I’m not sure an 18-300 gets you the shot all the time.... a fleeting moment could happen when you’re at the wrong focal length. Also the lens will be slow... it won’t be best for all situations. Lastly, it’ll be huge and many of us don’t care for that.
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kshapero "a DSLR with a super zoom (18-300) so that I always get the shot."
If it were only that easy... There's the old adage "It's the Indian, not the arrow."
I'd place my betting money on Peter Turnley or William Allard with a Leica and a 35, against your average Joe with the latest DSLR and super zoom. Every time.
If it were only that easy... There's the old adage "It's the Indian, not the arrow."
I'd place my betting money on Peter Turnley or William Allard with a Leica and a 35, against your average Joe with the latest DSLR and super zoom. Every time.
Musashi1205
Established
Is he sporty? Does he use allrounder trainers for all his sports or does he have football shoes, basketball shoes, running shoes, sneakers, for the different purposes?
Wanna hang a nice print on the wall? Just drill a big nice 12mm hole, put in a massive screw and it’s done - it’s all about getting a random hole in that wall? Or would you consider proper tools, right sized screw or maybe just a hammer and a nail?
Sometimes it’s liberating to limit our selfes to a certain tool (e.g. a 35mm lens) to practice a certain look, a certain technique or just learn how to see our surroundings. Like to use specific running shoes for sprinting.
Wanna hang a nice print on the wall? Just drill a big nice 12mm hole, put in a massive screw and it’s done - it’s all about getting a random hole in that wall? Or would you consider proper tools, right sized screw or maybe just a hammer and a nail?
Sometimes it’s liberating to limit our selfes to a certain tool (e.g. a 35mm lens) to practice a certain look, a certain technique or just learn how to see our surroundings. Like to use specific running shoes for sprinting.
kshapero
South Florida Man
I wish you guys were with me when he said this. Great comebacks. Anyway it was all just having fun photo talk.
Anyway it was all just having fun photo talk.
and a family member to talk to about it!
Huss
Veteran
Depends what you mean by getting the shot.
charjohncarter
Veteran
Anyway it was all just having fun photo talk.
Yes, it is fun, I have an artistic grandson (13). He wanted me to show him how to take photos. I gave his father a Pentax K1000 when he was his son's age.
I loaded it and he never said anything about digital. He was interested in composition. Being an expert (ha ha) I did what I could. We will see when I get to visit him again after this Chinese virus. I can't wait.
farlymac
PF McFarland
It all depends on what you are trying to capture, Akiva. I've got an 18-300, but it stays in the bag most of the time.
PF
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gavinlg
Veteran
I've know this one... If things are too easy, you never make anything good.
Brian Atherton
Well-known
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You quickly spread yourself thin with too many options. No one can be fully immersed in all that's happening 2ft and 500ft away from them. Limitations encourages creativity.
Yokosuka Mike
Abstract Clarity
Limitations encourages creativity.
This is the best thing I've read on this forum for a long time. Well said. Bravo!
All the best,
Mike
wells46
Member
For some, it's the journey as much as the destination. I enjoy working in the darkroom as much as composing the photo.
Richard G
Veteran
Anathema here, but there are a lots of successful photographers who use two lenses: 28-70 zoom and 70-200 zoom.
A friend’s younger brother is a wedding photographer. He knows I have some Leicas. At the most recent family wedding he told me the latest D-Lux compact could almost do the whole wedding. On the photo.net Wedding Forum there’s always some pro who posits that at a pinch he could shoot the whole wedding just with a 35mm f1.4. That’s closer to our thinking here.
Listen to the young, because they won’t listen to us for long. Ultimately they will be right. The opposition of fathers and sons is all about something else.
A friend’s younger brother is a wedding photographer. He knows I have some Leicas. At the most recent family wedding he told me the latest D-Lux compact could almost do the whole wedding. On the photo.net Wedding Forum there’s always some pro who posits that at a pinch he could shoot the whole wedding just with a 35mm f1.4. That’s closer to our thinking here.
Listen to the young, because they won’t listen to us for long. Ultimately they will be right. The opposition of fathers and sons is all about something else.
markjwyatt
Well-known
...sometimes just getting the shot is what counts. ...
The rest of the time other characteristics matter too. Smart kid though.
PRJ
Another Day in Paradise
My retort would have been, I don't want all the pictures, just the good ones.
He would have had to think about that. Problem solved. Lol.
He would have had to think about that. Problem solved. Lol.
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