Forte BN4 Bromofort problem

[taylan]

in my last printing session i tried forte bn4 bromofort paper with tetenal eukobrom developer. but i did not get rich blacks even 5th grade. then i changed the paper and i used ilford multigrade FB and i could get rich blacks with this paper.
i googled about bromofort and i read that it is a cold tone paper. can i get good results with this paper, when i use cold developers?
i have small amount of this paper and i don't want ruin it by testing with different developers. Also do u have any suggestion about developer? i can find ilford's and kodak's developers at my local store.

 

[shadowfox]

in my last printing session i tried forte bn4 bromofort paper with tetenal eukobrom developer. but i did not get rich blacks even 5th grade. then i changed the paper and i used ilford multigrade FB and i could get rich blacks with this paper.
i googled about bromofort and i read that it is a cold tone paper. can i get good results with this paper, when i use cold developers?
i have small amount of this paper and i don't want ruin it by testing with different developers. Also do u have any suggestion about developer? i can find ilford's and kodak's developers at my local store.

Taylan, if you follow the codes in this website I found (link below), you'll see that the code (bn4) tells you that it's an N = Normal grade paper (does it have some green labeling on the package?).

I don't know what exactly that means, but since there's another letter designated for variable contrast, I think it's a graded paper, and quite low contrast (about grade #2 here in the US or UK).

Maybe that's why you can't get the deeper black even when you use #5 filter, because it's not a variable contrast paper.

Meanwhile the Ilford FB Multigrade *is* a variable contrast, that's why it responded to filters. Make sense?

PS: 29 years old and already printing in the darkroom, I'm proud of you 🙂

Link: http://www.artzonegr.com/paperzone/forte.htm

 

[taylan]

thank you Will. yes it is green labeled. you are right it is normal graded paper. my supplier gave it to me as it is a variable contrast paper and i did not check before use it. it is my carelessness. thank you for your information.

PS: i have been printing since 7 years 🙂.
regards
taylan

 

[Freakscene]

Forte went out of business in 2004. This paper is old, irrespective of what grade it is. The lack of deep blacks could be due to aging.

Marty

 

[shadowfox]

thank you Will. yes it is green labeled. you are right it is normal graded paper. my supplier gave it to me as it is a variable contrast paper and i did not check before use it. it is my carelessness. thank you for your information.

PS: i have been printing since 7 years 🙂.
regards
taylan

You're quite welcome.
Say, I'm intrigued by StreetDog. Those photos are very good street photography. I like the manifest also.

 

[taylan]

Forte went out of business in 2004. This paper is old, irrespective of what grade it is. The lack of deep blacks could be due to aging.

Marty

Yes Marty it might be due to aging, but the main reason is using filter at a graded paper. I will try it by not using filter.

You're quite welcome.
Say, I'm intrigued by StreetDog. Those photos are very good street photography. I like the manifest also.

Thank you Will for your encouraging words about StreetDog. We wanted to establish a web site which have users (street photographers) from all over the world, but we have not managed to develop user interfaces such as login screen or upload section. Non of us have any knowledge about web site developing issue and also we have not found any web template that fits our demands. If we manage, there will be more photographs and more photographers.


Regards
Taylan

 

[titrisol]

Bromofort was a very slow paper
snip a piece and run a exposure test, times should be 2 - 4x those of Ilford

 

[taylan]

Bromofort was a very slow paper
snip a piece and run a exposure test, times should be 2 - 4x those of Ilford

yes you are right titrisol. i found that the development time is about 3:45 minutes for my conditions. on the other hand the time of ilford is 2 minutes.