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Russian Rangefinder forum has similar thread on ten pages.
http://rangefinder.ru/club/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15404....
Whoa thats super cool info Ko.Fe. Thanks.
Marcelo
Russian Rangefinder forum has similar thread on ten pages.
http://rangefinder.ru/club/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15404....
Whoa thats super cool info Ko.Fe. Thanks.
Marcelo
I'll second that; by the way, how did prices of everyday things compare? Also I know musicians who fled west found problems as they weren't expecting unemployment due to USSR policies.
It would be interesting to get the USSR version of prices in the west...
Regards, David
PS Loved the table in kg of potatoes.
Russian made slides were fading quickly but German film was available.

David,
You can't look that way... Many things were quite affordable (price-wise), but shops were empty. Some places were better, some worse, but many of us (who lived inFSU) remember queueing to buy the toilet paper (yes, it was cheap when you manage to get hold of it 🙂). "Exotic" fruits (bananas, oranges) were available only during short period around New Year Eve (again - queueing for hours). As a kid I did not memorize most of prices, except for icecream and fixer/ developer 🙂. Quality icecream was 20 kop. - fixer or developer was about the same 🙂. 20 kop was something I could get by returning empty glass bottle from the lemonade (deposit). Milk bottle deposit though was only 15 kop 🙂
"Exotic" fruits (bananas, oranges) were available only during short period around New Year Eve (again - queueing for hours).
I'll second that; by the way, how did prices of everyday things compare? Also I know musicians who fled west found problems as they weren't expecting unemployment due to USSR policies.
It would be interesting to get the USSR version of prices in the west...
Regards, David
PS Loved the table in kg of potatoes.
Tangentially, I do wonder about Chinese cameras. I understand the Seagull TLR was sort of a standard design which ended up being produced in several different factories with slight variations. The Great Wall SLR was intended to be a cheaper (more accessible?) alternative aimed at photography students, but seems comparatively rare. 35mm cameras were apparently very uncommon in China until the 1990s, even soviet made ones.
As I understand it most common cameras in China were very simple things along the lines of the Holga (which was of course from Hong Kong, but initially intended for sale in China). The Holga of course became exported around the world, whereas the equivalent native Chinese products were rarely (if ever?) exported.
Tangentially, I do wonder about Chinese cameras. I understand the Seagull TLR was sort of a standard design which ended up being produced in several different factories with slight variations. The Great Wall SLR was intended to be a cheaper (more accessible?) alternative aimed at photography students, but seems comparatively rare. 35mm cameras were apparently very uncommon in China until the 1990s, even soviet made ones.
As I understand it most common cameras in China were very simple things along the lines of the Holga (which was of course from Hong Kong, but initially intended for sale in China). The Holga of course became exported around the world, whereas the equivalent native Chinese products were rarely (if ever?) exported.
You just need to find the right entrance:
https://s.taobao.com/search?spm=a230r.1.0.0.oykcdR&q=国产旁轴相机&rs=up&rsclick=4&preq=国产相机
LOL; I can see only tons of convenience food, but no photographic stuff at all 😉
Exactly. Moscow, 1990. Good tomatoes, on the free market, 2 roubles/ kilo. Controlled price tomatoes, 35 kopeks/kilo -- except that on the rare occasions you could find them, they were wizened/ shrivelled/ broken...David,
You can't look that way... Many things were quite affordable (price-wise), but shops were empty. Some places were better, some worse, but many of us (who lived inFSU) remember queueing to buy the toilet paper (yes, it was cheap when you manage to get hold of it 🙂). "Exotic" fruits (bananas, oranges) were available only during short period around New Year Eve (again - queueing for hours). As a kid I did not memorize most of prices, except for icecream and fixer/ developer 🙂. Quality icecream was 20 kop. - fixer or developer was about the same 🙂. 20 kop was something I could get by returning empty glass bottle from the lemonade (deposit). Milk bottle deposit though was only 15 kop 🙂
Fair enough, and thanks for actual numbers, but how meaningful was "average" salary in a wildly unequal society such as China in 1986? Or even today?In 1986, I have my first Seagull camera. Basically a Minolta sr copy with a 58mm f2 lens. The price was 400 yuan. The amount is about half year of average salary. 120 cameras were not preferred at that time since color 35mm getting popular. Seagull tlrs were selling half of SLR 35mm cameras. 10yuan I can buy 10meter back white films to play with.