noah b
Established
I have an opportunity to acquire a fuji gw690, the first version. What are the high and low prices for this model based on condition?
weetsie
Member
i noticed the GSW goes for alot more than the GW and im wondering why..
is the 65mm lens alot sharper or something? if not i really dont get why they are more expensive.
the 90mm is over a stop faster and has a 35mm equiv of 36mm, which is surely alot more desireable than a equivilant of 26mm, no?
is the 65mm lens alot sharper or something? if not i really dont get why they are more expensive.
the 90mm is over a stop faster and has a 35mm equiv of 36mm, which is surely alot more desireable than a equivilant of 26mm, no?
Luna
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People like wides.
EdSawyer
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the GSW is more expensive for a couple reasons. Generally there are less of them, since they only were made in 690 (and some rare 680) configurations, while the GW came in 670, 680, 690. Plus more people bought the GW from what I can tell. And yes, the 65mm is at least as sharp if not sharper than the 90, I think, at least based on my experience. (I have/had both a GW670III and GSW690III, sold the GW but kept the GSW with the idea of getting a GW690 to pair with it later...)
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the GSW is more expensive for a couple reasons. Generally there are less of them, since they only were made in 690 (and some rare 680) configurations, while the GW came in 670, 680, 690. Plus more people bought the GW from what I can tell. And yes, the 65mm is at least as sharp if not sharper than the 90, I think, at least based on my experience. (I have/had both a GW670III and GSW690III, sold the GW but kept the GSW with the idea of getting a GW690 to pair with it later...)
weetsie
Member
well, as long as the there isnt a problem with the optics on the GW im glad they are cheaper.
kuzano
Veteran
I have the OOOLD G690 and GSW690III
I have the OOOLD G690 and GSW690III
considering the age difference and the 100 vs the 65mm lens, I personally can't detect differences in sharpness. The later lens ?may? be a little more flare resistant, but even that is not detectable to me.
While I like the GSW, I don't use it as much. Frankly, I'm not much of a wide wide person. The extra subject matter gets to be a bit much for me. Secondly, if I want a panorama, stitching the 100mm lens produces a more real panorama than stitching the 65. One rule in stitching for panoramas is to stitch with as close to a normal lens for the format as possible. This precludes some of the aspect distortion in the stitching process.
So, while people do tend to pay somewhat more JUST for the wide, I think it's counter productive on MF in 645 or 6X9.
When I stitch two 6X9's together, it comes out very near the look of a 6X17 depending on the overlap needed to blend the stitch. A 6X12 stitched with two 6X9's is a "no brainer" as long as you set up the two shots.
I don't use any expensive or complicated gear. I use a tripod and I level BOTH the rotation portion of the tripod and the camera. Then I simply turn the tripod head for a 25% overlap on frames and work quickly to avoid changing light.
So, while I have a GSW, it gets used less, and may go away one day. If I do get rid of the GSW, I will probably get a GW690 II or III. That's only if I have problems with the OLD TANK G690. It may live forever, but it's a bit heavy compared to the II and III fixed lens version.
I have the OOOLD G690 and GSW690III
considering the age difference and the 100 vs the 65mm lens, I personally can't detect differences in sharpness. The later lens ?may? be a little more flare resistant, but even that is not detectable to me.
While I like the GSW, I don't use it as much. Frankly, I'm not much of a wide wide person. The extra subject matter gets to be a bit much for me. Secondly, if I want a panorama, stitching the 100mm lens produces a more real panorama than stitching the 65. One rule in stitching for panoramas is to stitch with as close to a normal lens for the format as possible. This precludes some of the aspect distortion in the stitching process.
So, while people do tend to pay somewhat more JUST for the wide, I think it's counter productive on MF in 645 or 6X9.
When I stitch two 6X9's together, it comes out very near the look of a 6X17 depending on the overlap needed to blend the stitch. A 6X12 stitched with two 6X9's is a "no brainer" as long as you set up the two shots.
I don't use any expensive or complicated gear. I use a tripod and I level BOTH the rotation portion of the tripod and the camera. Then I simply turn the tripod head for a 25% overlap on frames and work quickly to avoid changing light.
So, while I have a GSW, it gets used less, and may go away one day. If I do get rid of the GSW, I will probably get a GW690 II or III. That's only if I have problems with the OLD TANK G690. It may live forever, but it's a bit heavy compared to the II and III fixed lens version.
gdmcclintock
Well-known
The GSW is more popular than the GW because it's a wide angle camera. Both are terrific! -George
weetsie
Member
just need to fine one now then.
benno
Hack.
So guys, I just picked up one of these babies on fleabay.
Hasn't arrived yet, but how do you actually use it? MF is a whole new experience to me.
I can't seem to see a shutter speed dial?
Hasn't arrived yet, but how do you actually use it? MF is a whole new experience to me.
I can't seem to see a shutter speed dial?
ChrisN
Striving
benno
Hack.
Thanks mate, I tried searching for a manual but couldn't find a free one!
Merelyok
Well-known
Well...i actually sold my Mamiya 7 with 80mm lens to fund a GW690. (the balance went towards a Canon 50mm 1.2 LTM for my Leica).
I've only shot one roll on it so far but i'm liking it more than the Mamiya already. The lack of a meter does not bother me and i actually do perfer working with a seperate, external meter.
The rangefinder patch is ALOT easier to focus than the one on the Mamiya 7 (i had the 7, not the 7II). The 6x9 format seems to suit me better as well.
Oh. And the Fujinon glass is tack sharp. Even more so than the 80mm on my Mamiya.
I've only shot one roll on it so far but i'm liking it more than the Mamiya already. The lack of a meter does not bother me and i actually do perfer working with a seperate, external meter.
The rangefinder patch is ALOT easier to focus than the one on the Mamiya 7 (i had the 7, not the 7II). The 6x9 format seems to suit me better as well.
Oh. And the Fujinon glass is tack sharp. Even more so than the 80mm on my Mamiya.
kuzano
Veteran
Both the shutter speed and the aperture/f-stop setting rings are on the front of the lens. The lens hood sliding back on the front of the lens obscures the setting readout. Slide the hood forward for adjusting.
benno
Hack.
Well, my 6x9 finally arrived:
It makes my M3 feel dainty by comparison! I hope like hell I'm loading the film correctly - I won't be developing it for a few weeks, and won't be getting a scanner for a bit after that.
It makes my M3 feel dainty by comparison! I hope like hell I'm loading the film correctly - I won't be developing it for a few weeks, and won't be getting a scanner for a bit after that.
benno
Hack.
I have a sneaking suspicion the hood on this camera is going to lose a fight with a dremel when I get home...
larmarv916
Well-known
Just purchased a GSW690III that I found at Samy's Camera up in Hollywood. Now the crazy part is that it is brand new! It was ordered and then never purchased. I got a great deal...I have been looking for a GSW for some time. I have not even shot a roll of film yet. I just got back from the store. It has all the cards and manual and a 000 counter.
So I really looking forward to putting this baby to work. So there are some gems out there, it just takes lots of energy to find em. It also weighs next to nothing . Iam going out to buy some 67mm filters next. But Iam also looking forward to shooting some great color slides.
I actually think that shooting will be easy as the shutter almost silent compared to any of my medium SLR's.....that sound like pop guns.
So I am looking forward to some fun.
So I really looking forward to putting this baby to work. So there are some gems out there, it just takes lots of energy to find em. It also weighs next to nothing . Iam going out to buy some 67mm filters next. But Iam also looking forward to shooting some great color slides.
I actually think that shooting will be easy as the shutter almost silent compared to any of my medium SLR's.....that sound like pop guns.
So I am looking forward to some fun.