valdas
Veteran
This is just an open pro pack roll.
yes, correct. still, it does not mean it does not exist, check this one:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...341033_Neopan_Acros_100_120_Professional.html
css9450
Veteran
yes, correct. still, it does not mean it does not exist, check this one:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...341033_Neopan_Acros_100_120_Professional.html
Could be they've had that same picture for the past decade. I'd love to be able to get them in single boxes like that though!
valdas
Veteran
Could be they've had that same picture for the past decade. I'd love to be able to get them in single boxes like that though!
Could be, but in general - why would one care about a box? It sounds to me as a bit of fetishism
css9450
Veteran
.... and Freestyle is out of 120. Should be just temporary though it sounds like.
How odd. Freestyle sent my order in two shipments, 24 hours apart. Its Fed Ex Ground - so there are now two trains racing across the desert heading for Chicago, with my film aboard.
DanskDynamit
Well-known
one ignorant question, how come Eastman 5222 has future when nobody is filming in black and white anymore?
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
one ignorant question, how come Eastman 5222 has future when nobody is filming in black and white anymore?
Dan,
One explaination is film schools where students cut their teeth and learn the old school approach in B&W for economic reasons.
Also know I'm seeing less B&W prints and more color prints in the fine art world in galleries. It seems B&W is phasing out.
Cal
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
Also know I'm seeing less B&W prints and more color prints in the fine art world in galleries. It seems B&W is phasing out.
Cal
Uh, oh. I can’t see that as being a positive development.
Phone brain syndrome claims another victim, perhaps.
As far as photography is concerned: B&W is for people. Color is for people’s clothes.
maigo
Well-known
I'm on vacation in Japan and checked out BIC Camera tonight at Shibuya (Hachikoguchi) looking for some Acros 100.
They were out of 120 5 packs and 135 3 packs. I bought the last 3 singles of 135.
I don't speak Japanese. The shopkeeper had no understanding of me or the product when I asked if it was discontinued or still available.
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They were out of 120 5 packs and 135 3 packs. I bought the last 3 singles of 135.
I don't speak Japanese. The shopkeeper had no understanding of me or the product when I asked if it was discontinued or still available.
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I don't read Japanese, but are we certain they aren't just pulling some size variations...?
Its right there in black and white beyond any shadow of a doubt if you do read Japanese (I do).
Here's the Japanese language title of the notification from Fujifilm: 白黒フィルムおよび白黒印画紙 販売終了の案内
Sticking that into Google Translate gets you this: Black-and-white film and black-and-white photographic paper sale end guidance
"sale end" is a clumsy way of saying discontinued. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
I'm on vacation in Japan and checked out BIC Camera tonight at Shibuya (Hachikoguchi) looking for some Acros 100.
They were out of 120 5 packs and 135 3 packs.
Same thing at Yodobashi Camera. The panic buying has already started!
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Uh, oh. I can’t see that as being a positive development.
Phone brain syndrome claims another victim, perhaps.
As far as photography is concerned: B&W is for people. Color is for people’s clothes.
Larry,
I took a "Gallery Workshop" and got up to date on the fine art market. It was a rude awakening for an old school guy like me.
I had always thought that silver wet prints would command a premium over archival pigment prints, especially in the fine art market. No doubt that a silver print is more archival, but a pricing premium no longer exists today.
To stay on topic we know that film is a dying art, and people like us are "romantic" about keeping our love for Acros and film alive.
Interesting to note that when my gal started her blog almost 4 years ago, we were forced to use B&W to cover fashion, this was hard to do, and this was due to the Monochrom being my only digital camera. Manual focus was another handicap...
But the point here is I learned from my gal's blog is: that if you want to stand out don't do what everyone else is doing. "Maggie's" blog got a lot of "traction" because it stood out.
This April 15th will be the 10th Annual "Shorty" Awards Ceremony. My gal is one of six finalists in the fashion category as a "Digital Influencer." One of her competitors is Victoria Beckham.
Moral of the story here is that it pays not to follow the herd, and individuality is well rewarded.
In life I found out that being a strong individual basically disturbs and annoys people. LOL. Seems part of my "Branding." LOL.
Back on topic. Be a romantic and shoot as much Acros while it is still available.
Cal
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Its right there in black and white beyond any shadow of a doubt if you do read Japanese (I do).
Here's the Japanese language title of the notification from Fujifilm: 白黒フィルムおよび白黒印画紙 販売終了の案内
Sticking that into Google Translate gets you this: Black-and-white film and black-and-white photographic paper sale end guidance
"sale end" is a clumsy way of saying discontinued. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Same thing at Yodobashi Camera. The panic buying has already started!
Jon,
Thanks for the clarity. Bad news is not your fault.
Cal
taemo
eat sleep shoot
Article i read about this
Dont know how accurate it is
https://studioc41.net/2018/03/30/understanding-fujinotfilm/
Dont know how accurate it is
https://studioc41.net/2018/03/30/understanding-fujinotfilm/
bluesun267
Well-known
My last order from B&H arrived yesterday (ordered before this announcement hit the internet): I received 3 rolls of 120 (no boxes), expiration 10/2019
bluesun267
Well-known
Article i read about this
Dont know how accurate it is
https://studioc41.net/2018/03/30/understanding-fujinotfilm/
I call B*S on that story. No film manufacturer can maintain strict quality control (at least what we are used to, and still get from Fuji) by deep-freezing film for, what is it now, 6 years?
This might be workable for a slow speed B/W like ACROS (or Agfa APX 100) but as I've shot film now for 30+ years, I've never seen a color film, even Kodachrome, not suffer some degradation after that amount of time, no matter how "deep" the freeze. Whether this degradation is acceptable to the average photographer is another story (I've certainly gotten acceptable results from many years' expired color film).
I just do not see Fuji, as a business, selling products with just 'acceptable' standards for an indeterminate period after 2012. Also, they would have to have changed their own established standards for expiration dates, and in effect be lying to consumers. They seem to be claiming all the film manufacture equipment has been scrapped; I take that to include the slitting, perforating and finishing equipment as well. So are we are supposed to believe that Fuji knew in 2012 exactly how much of each film they would sell in the next six (or indeterminate) years, cut, packaged and dated them appropriately, and froze them?
maigo
Well-known
Same thing at Yodobashi Camera. The panic buying has already started!
As I'm leaving Japan on Friday and don't have more time for shopping, I just panic-bought 10 x 5 pack of Acros 120 from B&H.
"More coming" is the stock status.
The price will only go up from here.
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Prest_400
Multiformat
The main issue with the "scrapped" equipment theory is that Instax materials still require a negative product, thus a coater in operation.They seem to be claiming all the film manufacture equipment has been scrapped; I take that to include the slitting, perforating and finishing equipment as well. So are we are supposed to believe that Fuji knew in 2012 exactly how much of each film they would sell in the next six (or indeterminate) years, cut, packaged and dated them appropriately, and froze them?
Back on the initial stages, Impossible had Ilford cut the Negative material of its Integral films.
And a disconcerning fact here is that B&W materials are easier to manufacture compared to color products.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Cal,. . . we know that film is a dying art, and people like us are "romantic" about keeping our love for Acros and film alive. . . .
For a given value of "dying". Ever been to Arles? And Ilford is doing OK.
Cheers,
R.
css9450
Veteran
I call B*S on that story.... deep-freezing film for, what is it now, 6 years?
So are we are supposed to believe that Fuji knew in 2012 exactly how much of each film they would sell in the next six (or indeterminate) years?
I don't buy it either, particularly since the article makes it sound like this "end" of sales has snuck up on them sooner than initially predicted thanks to whatever film resurgence might be going on. Like they might have kept it frozen for even more time otherwise.
znapper
Well-known
It's now official, stock up.....or don't, but it will be gone soon:
http://ffis.fujifilm.co.jp/information/articlein_0081.html
https://translate.google.com/transl...jp/information/articlein_0081.html&edit-text=
http://ffis.fujifilm.co.jp/information/articlein_0081.html
https://translate.google.com/transl...jp/information/articlein_0081.html&edit-text=
Scapevision
Well-known
no worry friend, Kodak will bring it back!
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