BLKRCAT
75% Film
picked up a roll over the weekend. Planning on making a video in the future about the film as a send off. I've shot the film a bunch in 120 but I never have shot it in 35mm, so that will be fun.
bayernfan
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i bought a few 120 propacks at the old school price of $24 from adorama a few months ago on backorder. still waiting for fulfillment on this.
Prest_400
Multiformat
John Sypal posted a story on IG, screenshot of some japanese article about Fuji possibly rethinking about Acros...
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brbo
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Bring it on!!!
Maybe Fuji can repeat the discontinuation, "reformulation" (yeah, right!), reintroduction (at almost double the price) and final discontinuation of Neopan 400? All of this within, what, a year or two?
Is there a nicer way to make some extra bucks from remaining stock?
Maybe Fuji can repeat the discontinuation, "reformulation" (yeah, right!), reintroduction (at almost double the price) and final discontinuation of Neopan 400? All of this within, what, a year or two?
Is there a nicer way to make some extra bucks from remaining stock?
HHPhoto
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John Sypal posted a story on IG, screenshot of some japanese article about Fuji possibly rethinking about Acros...
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I've just looked at his Instagram page, and there wasn't any posting:
https://www.instagram.com/tokyocamerastyle/
Already deleted?
Could you plaese give a direct link to that posting?
Thanks!
Cheers, Jan
brbo
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HHPhoto
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Thank you!
A question at our Japanese (speaking) members here: What is exactly written in the Japaneses text John Sypal is referring to?
Thanks for your help!
Cheers, Jan
rolfe
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When the discontinuation was announced, both B&H and Adorama were out of stock instantly and B&H said they would not get any more, despite the fact that there was an October, 2018 date associated with the discontinuation.
Adorama accepted an order for 6 pro-packs of 120 Acros as a backorder, and has had it on backorder for months. Yesterday, they delivered my 6 pro-packs, but the website now says "discontinued".
Go figure...
Rolfe
Adorama accepted an order for 6 pro-packs of 120 Acros as a backorder, and has had it on backorder for months. Yesterday, they delivered my 6 pro-packs, but the website now says "discontinued".
Go figure...
Rolfe
PCR
Established
FYI
https://www.en.finegrain.es/2018/03/this-is-why-fujifilm-and-agfaphoto.html
without machines no new film?
https://www.en.finegrain.es/2018/03/this-is-why-fujifilm-and-agfaphoto.html
without machines no new film?
Skiff
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Oh please, not again this complete nonsense!!
Every statement in this text is wrong.
Because the pictures there were from the former Fujifilm plant in Tilburg, Netherlands. Up to 2008 only color negative amateur films for the European market were made there. No professional CN film, no reversal film, no BW film. No film for non-european markets. It was just one of several global Fujifilm factories.
Since 2008 Fujifilm is producing silver-halide paper (RA-4) for the European market in Tilburg.
Not one single picture in this article is from the main Fujifilm film factory in Tokyo.
The pictures from Tilburg were published online when the machines got for sale by an auction company some years ago.
It is really sad that some people are making money by clickbaiting and by telling such lies.
css9450
Veteran
Jan, we have been speculating as such several times in this thread already. So if its wrong, this is the first we have heard of it.
Skiff
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1. I am not Jan.
2. The link to that article have been posted here on rff and in other forums and social media channels quite often. Therefore my wish "please not again".
css9450
Veteran
Sorry; I thought you were both the same person. But yes, that link was posted here earlier and some have wondered if it was true but yours is the first post to tell us it is not.
Larry Cloetta
Veteran
B and H has Acros 100 in 135 in stock and ready to ship today. Has been there since Friday.
They apparently had a large stock of 120 as well, but by the time I arrived late at the party yesterday they were out of five packs, and were limiting 120 orders to two rolls per person. Today the 120 seems to be gone, but 35mm very available. Maybe I should have posted this sooner, but I thought “surely, I’m the last here to know this.”
They apparently had a large stock of 120 as well, but by the time I arrived late at the party yesterday they were out of five packs, and were limiting 120 orders to two rolls per person. Today the 120 seems to be gone, but 35mm very available. Maybe I should have posted this sooner, but I thought “surely, I’m the last here to know this.”
Skiff
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You are welcome.
As I've written:
"The pictures from Tilburg were published online when the machines got for sale by an auction company some years ago."
These pictures have been quite often posted in several European forums and social media channels some years ago in preparation for the auction. The auction company wanted as much potential customers as possible.
Therefore you can ask all European film manufacturers about that, and they will confirm. Because they were either directly addresed or got the infos online.
Of course you can also ask the staff in Tilburg. The Fufifilm factory is still there in Tilburg, modernised and producing RA-4 photo paper (dozen of millions of m² p.a.) and lots of other materials like membranes.
You can also ask Super 8 expert Tak Koyama (who is converting fresh Provia 100F in S8 cassettes): He is visiting the Fufilm film factory in Tokyo almost every month due to one of his friends. And he says the factory is operating normally as in the last years.
And of course - visible for everyone - the boom in Fuji instax with millions of cameras sold each year. And a film production at full capacity. How to produce dozens of millions instax film packs every year without machinery?
Prest_400
Multiformat
Tak Koyama. That's very interesting! Up until now Fuji seemed a hermetic sarcophagus. For Kodak there are Retirees and other contacts that give out a rather good picture about the facilities, of Fuji I knew nothing.
The machinery theory IMO weakens quite a bit when you count that Integral film requires a negative film material, thus the emulsion and coating machinery still has a use. Another issue would be specific components not shared amongst some films (BW, C41, E6).
Crazy would it be that they discontinue films to free up production space and slots, could have been the case with Peel apart?
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Skiff
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We've talked about that here on rff in the past years, too. Every instant film, also integral instant film, has a negative film base. And this negative film is produced like any other negative film concerning emulsion making and coating.
For example the color negative film base of Polaroid Originals film is made in Germany by Inoviscoat. A company founded by former Agfa Germany engineers, which have built a complete new film factory in the town Monheim in 2008. They have bought lots of former film production machinery from the former Agfa plant in Leverkusen. Therefore Polaroid Originals film of today is partly made on machines on which up to 2005 the Agfa photo films were made.
Unlikely. Packfilm had to be discontinued because the demand has collapsed. The only relevant demand volume for packfilm had been professional photographers (studio test shots) and passport and identity card photographers. Demand from amateurs and enthusiasts has always been negligible in comparison to the professional demand.
Faintandfuzzy
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Nonsense. The people I see...without fail...interested in pack are photographers/artists. Nothing to do with studio test shots or passports. Where the heck have you been?
Skiff
Well-known
No, it is not at all nonsense. It's the reality.
Of course now the people you see using pack film are often artists.
Because all the professionals have long given up using it. Test shots in studios and passport photography have gone digital years ago.
But the number of artists and enthusiasts is absolutely tiny and negligible compared to the former huge demand volume of e.g. passport / identity card photography, when ten thousands of shots were made every day.
Only some thousand artists globally who shoot this film only from time to time are not enough at all to keep a line running which was implemented to serve a huge mass market!
I've been in this business for quite a long time. I know what I am talking about. Everyone in this industry know that packfilm was a film type that lived by the passport and studio test shot demand.
And by the way: Just some days ago, Florian Kaps (founder of Impossible), who now tries to make packfilm again, has in an interview completely confirmed what I've explained here. You find the interview on youtube.
PCR
Established
So I asked Tak Koyama via Email. He wrote that he only where there one time @ the factory 20 years ago....
Greetings
Peter
Greetings
Peter