stratcat
Well-known
And I felt bad because I bought 10 rolls a couple of weeks ago... I'll go get some more!
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Medium format means hungry cameras. 10 rolls in an afternoon is easy, especially where in 6x9 you only have 8 shots. On a good day it can be 20 rolls.
Of course in 135 its less.
Cal
kuzano
Veteran
Out OF Stock should be no surprise....
Out OF Stock should be no surprise....
Why do people conclude that OOS portends discontinued. If you were running an inventory based business in the current economy, I don't doubt that you would crank your inventory restocking points to "rock bottom".
I'd love to run a business where as soon as the product hits my freight dock, it's sold at the front counter.
The current economy has no room in it for inventory sitting unsold in the cooler. Nor for that matter, re-ordering LARGE quantities. The buyers are fickle and have the same economic problems.... let's see "Film this week" or feed the family?"
Fuji must be loving the demand for ACROS and it's doubtful it will disappear. However, it's their business decision and I am not losing sleep over it. I use a lot of it, but someone always has some inventory somewhere. I go find it. In fact, I often go to eBay and find film sellers that have a large number of feedbacks at 100% positive, and buy from them. I don't think I have ever NOT found fresh film that I was looking for on a highly rated seller on eBay.
Film is going to be more that way as time goes on. We will become gatherer's. Find it and buy it all up (which is why some of us are not finding it) and store it in the freezer. Or, we will be hunters and have to range far and wide to find it when we want some. But if we find some and we just buy small quantities for now, then the next time we want some the hunt begins again.
I think we've reached the end of the road for the people in the distributions chain to continue to store film for individuals who just want 5 rolls of 120. I bet that if you laid a couple of thousand dollars on B&H and told them to hold it and just send film on to you as they get it in, you would find yourself having to buy your own film freezer, as the film would magically appear in it's on production time.
Have you asked B&H if they will take and large amount of money and just hold it for your future needs based on availability. I'd be surprised if they turn you down.
Out OF Stock should be no surprise....
Why do people conclude that OOS portends discontinued. If you were running an inventory based business in the current economy, I don't doubt that you would crank your inventory restocking points to "rock bottom".
I'd love to run a business where as soon as the product hits my freight dock, it's sold at the front counter.
The current economy has no room in it for inventory sitting unsold in the cooler. Nor for that matter, re-ordering LARGE quantities. The buyers are fickle and have the same economic problems.... let's see "Film this week" or feed the family?"
Fuji must be loving the demand for ACROS and it's doubtful it will disappear. However, it's their business decision and I am not losing sleep over it. I use a lot of it, but someone always has some inventory somewhere. I go find it. In fact, I often go to eBay and find film sellers that have a large number of feedbacks at 100% positive, and buy from them. I don't think I have ever NOT found fresh film that I was looking for on a highly rated seller on eBay.
Film is going to be more that way as time goes on. We will become gatherer's. Find it and buy it all up (which is why some of us are not finding it) and store it in the freezer. Or, we will be hunters and have to range far and wide to find it when we want some. But if we find some and we just buy small quantities for now, then the next time we want some the hunt begins again.
I think we've reached the end of the road for the people in the distributions chain to continue to store film for individuals who just want 5 rolls of 120. I bet that if you laid a couple of thousand dollars on B&H and told them to hold it and just send film on to you as they get it in, you would find yourself having to buy your own film freezer, as the film would magically appear in it's on production time.
Have you asked B&H if they will take and large amount of money and just hold it for your future needs based on availability. I'd be surprised if they turn you down.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Kuzano,
I'm right there with you: I feel that if you want to shoot a lot of film the only way is to maintain your own stockpile. I am fortunate that I live in NYC and have B&H and Adorama as resources, but in the past there have been times where even Tri-X was not readily available, and the only way to moderate shortages is to hoard a bit of a stockpile as a buffer.
Also when Freestyle has special deals on film that is close to expire, I load up the truck. The last time this happened with Arcos in 135 I bought 300 rolls to take advantage of the reduced price.
Interesting to note that after this hoarding of mine that Arcos begain to be in short supply. Ideally the way the modern economy exists "just-n-time" manufacturing should keep up with demand, but breakdowns do happen. In the Boy SCouts they say: "Be prepared."
Cal
I'm right there with you: I feel that if you want to shoot a lot of film the only way is to maintain your own stockpile. I am fortunate that I live in NYC and have B&H and Adorama as resources, but in the past there have been times where even Tri-X was not readily available, and the only way to moderate shortages is to hoard a bit of a stockpile as a buffer.
Also when Freestyle has special deals on film that is close to expire, I load up the truck. The last time this happened with Arcos in 135 I bought 300 rolls to take advantage of the reduced price.
Interesting to note that after this hoarding of mine that Arcos begain to be in short supply. Ideally the way the modern economy exists "just-n-time" manufacturing should keep up with demand, but breakdowns do happen. In the Boy SCouts they say: "Be prepared."
Cal
hamradio
Well-known
15 rolls just showed up from adorama, a couple days ago.
stompyq
Well-known
Doesn't appear to be discontinued (thank god!!!). I think the US shortage was becase Calzone decided to stock up....
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Doesn't appear to be discontinued (thank god!!!). I think the US shortage was becase Calzone decided to stock up....
I have a reputation for being greedy.
When there was a rumor about Kodak TXP-320 being discontinued posted on this forum, I immediately went to B&H right after work to buy up all their 220, but they already were sold out.
When I got to Adorama I was able to secure the last 50 rolls of TXP in 220. Basically I quickly cornered the New York market. LOL.
Cal
stompyq
Well-known
After seeing how quickly you blow through film I wouldn't consider it greed. You really do use all of that up
Jaans
Well-known
That indeed is a silly assertion. If there weren't customers who bought in bulk and kept demand ticking over, then the film industry may implode.
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
hoot...i have been checking freestyle daily.
yesterday the availability of the 5-roll pack 120 format was like 22nd August. I checked 5 mins ago, and it says 20th July. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
yesterday the availability of the 5-roll pack 120 format was like 22nd August. I checked 5 mins ago, and it says 20th July. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Don't forget to be greedy and order lots of film. This is our own best interest.
Cal
raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
Fuji acros 100 became available in Freestyle today...
and very quickly became low stock. i called freestyle
and ordered the last 8 packs of 5 rolls in 120 format.
the next shipment from fuji to freestyle is 28th august,
and probably an increased in prices....gulp.
Acros 100 film, captured on the contax 645
and very quickly became low stock. i called freestyle
and ordered the last 8 packs of 5 rolls in 120 format.
the next shipment from fuji to freestyle is 28th august,
and probably an increased in prices....gulp.
Acros 100 film, captured on the contax 645