IGMeanwell
Well-known
It looks like they will be releasing the F20 in September ... slightly slimmer and lighter... plus available in a "gunmetal" finish (why can't they just make'em black)
Looks like they did away with the ISO 3200 setting ... could go up to ISO 2000 with their natural light setting (uses a smart fill flash I guess)
The more I read up on these P&S 's the less appealing they seem ... I'm going to be looking forward to seeing a review of the Lumix LX2 when it arrives and maybe by then Fuji will have an even better pocket rocket to speak of
Looks like they did away with the ISO 3200 setting ... could go up to ISO 2000 with their natural light setting (uses a smart fill flash I guess)
The more I read up on these P&S 's the less appealing they seem ... I'm going to be looking forward to seeing a review of the Lumix LX2 when it arrives and maybe by then Fuji will have an even better pocket rocket to speak of
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Bunny Pics
Bunny Pics
These are a few test shots of the bunnies taken with a small digital p&s in extremely low light (aka night) in the flat. I could not have taken any decent pics without flash, not with this prosumer camera.
'The Casio EX-P700 has an external flash sync terminal which allows me to connect any flash unit I want.
Using a big Metz 45 CT or even something smaller on a flash bracket, the pics can be as good as any other pro digital camera, but at half the cost, half the size and half the weight.
I shot a baptism yesterday and the flash pics are quite fine for the money.
Best Regards,
Kevin
Bunny Pics
These are a few test shots of the bunnies taken with a small digital p&s in extremely low light (aka night) in the flat. I could not have taken any decent pics without flash, not with this prosumer camera.
'The Casio EX-P700 has an external flash sync terminal which allows me to connect any flash unit I want.
Using a big Metz 45 CT or even something smaller on a flash bracket, the pics can be as good as any other pro digital camera, but at half the cost, half the size and half the weight.
I shot a baptism yesterday and the flash pics are quite fine for the money.
Best Regards,
Kevin
Attachments
rxmd
May contain traces of nut
Hi,
the older P-600 apparently has an external terminal, too.
What settings do you use on the flash? Do you just have it flash away at full power and have the camera do the metering, do you use an automatic flash and fix the camera's aperture, or does the camera support TTL flash?
Philipp
the older P-600 apparently has an external terminal, too.
What settings do you use on the flash? Do you just have it flash away at full power and have the camera do the metering, do you use an automatic flash and fix the camera's aperture, or does the camera support TTL flash?
Philipp
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
That's right! The EX-P600 has a flash terminal as well! But I dont think either of these models has TTL.
I haven't tried full manual flash yet. I think that would be way too much light!
Yes, I use an automatic flash and fix the camera's aperture. Normally I set the camera to ASA 80 and the flash to ASA 100. The flash's output dial is set anywhere between f/2.8 and f/5.6.
Then I take a pic and adjust the aperature as needed. Slight underexposure is fine, then I wont have so many problems with overexposed highlights.
Do you like the look?
I haven't tried full manual flash yet. I think that would be way too much light!
Yes, I use an automatic flash and fix the camera's aperture. Normally I set the camera to ASA 80 and the flash to ASA 100. The flash's output dial is set anywhere between f/2.8 and f/5.6.
Then I take a pic and adjust the aperature as needed. Slight underexposure is fine, then I wont have so many problems with overexposed highlights.
Do you like the look?
sf
Veteran
HCB used 35mm rangefinders because they are low impact, stealthy, etc. Some of us want to buy into the digital P&S selection. This is a good idea - they have alot of value if used for the right things. Some of us want to use a digital P&S for the type of thing we use our film rangefinders for. This is not a good idea - digital P&S cameras are not rangefinders. They will not replace rangefinders. They cannot replace rangefinders. The RD-1 is close. THe M8 will do a nice job of it, but still miss the mark (with a cropped sensor that will affect the value of our lens lineups).
What most of us want is a digital rangefinder LIKE the RD-1, but built differently, longer baselength, higher ISOs, lower ISOs, etc.
I bought the Canon SD700IS because it offers remarkably nice B&W, is easy to use after a day or so of getting used to the controls, and takes fantastic video. It is just a really nice family snapshot/pics on the bus to work/random clicking kind of camera for someone without the time or money to process 10+ rolls of film a week. I didn't buy it hoping to find something that would replace film of any format. I didn't buy it as my stealthy street shooter. The RF645 remains my art camera. The P&S is just that : a P&S for taking pictures of stuff like what I ate for breakfast or videos of raccoons playing in my yard, or pics of my Bronica.
I bought the Canon BECAUSE it will never replace my real camera. There will never be a "should I bring the Bronica or the SD700?" event. Never, because both cameras are hugely different creatures.
I accept that there are different tools for different jobs.
What most of us want is a digital rangefinder LIKE the RD-1, but built differently, longer baselength, higher ISOs, lower ISOs, etc.
I bought the Canon SD700IS because it offers remarkably nice B&W, is easy to use after a day or so of getting used to the controls, and takes fantastic video. It is just a really nice family snapshot/pics on the bus to work/random clicking kind of camera for someone without the time or money to process 10+ rolls of film a week. I didn't buy it hoping to find something that would replace film of any format. I didn't buy it as my stealthy street shooter. The RF645 remains my art camera. The P&S is just that : a P&S for taking pictures of stuff like what I ate for breakfast or videos of raccoons playing in my yard, or pics of my Bronica.
I bought the Canon BECAUSE it will never replace my real camera. There will never be a "should I bring the Bronica or the SD700?" event. Never, because both cameras are hugely different creatures.
I accept that there are different tools for different jobs.
ampguy
Veteran
i love these rabbit photos
i love these rabbit photos
the black one looks stealthy!! The white one has a cool design around his eyes.
i love these rabbit photos
the black one looks stealthy!! The white one has a cool design around his eyes.
Kevin said:
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Jacky (the black bunny) is a stealth rocket all right. She can run faster than any bunny I have ever had.
The cool-eye-design bunny is Bobby. He is quite the character. He likes to pose, much like Leoni, my current avatar bunny who passed away last year.
Are you a bunny friend as well?
The cool-eye-design bunny is Bobby. He is quite the character. He likes to pose, much like Leoni, my current avatar bunny who passed away last year.
Are you a bunny friend as well?
Attachments
Last edited:
IGMeanwell
Well-known
I like these bunny pics alot ... I assume the exposure takes a little to get right but overall I like the quality
I think this would be a setup Weegee would have been proud of ...
I just think its pretty funnny out of all the fantastic equipment you have it seems like you enjoy using this set up just as much as your others; or am I putting words into your mouth? It definitely seems to have its place in your arsenal
I think this would be a setup Weegee would have been proud of ...
I just think its pretty funnny out of all the fantastic equipment you have it seems like you enjoy using this set up just as much as your others; or am I putting words into your mouth? It definitely seems to have its place in your arsenal
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Thanks! Bunnies are great models I must tell you! They will actually sit up and pose for people they know well.
It seems almost blasphemous that I would enjoy using such as rig as much as my Leica M6 or Contax G2.
But I enjoy using it in only a few specific contexts:
1) bunny pics
2) studio flash verification (polaroid substitute)
3) underpaid, dark indoor events where good light, DOF and my comfort have a high priority.
I think Weegee must have had some serious arm and shoulder muscels in his heyday. But I dont believe he would have traded in his trusty Graphic for this cheap thing!
It seems almost blasphemous that I would enjoy using such as rig as much as my Leica M6 or Contax G2.
But I enjoy using it in only a few specific contexts:
1) bunny pics
2) studio flash verification (polaroid substitute)
3) underpaid, dark indoor events where good light, DOF and my comfort have a high priority.
I think Weegee must have had some serious arm and shoulder muscels in his heyday. But I dont believe he would have traded in his trusty Graphic for this cheap thing!