fuji xp-1 or leica m8.2 ?

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both interest me...

2 main things...
m8.2 = use m mount lenses/ltm with adapter
fuji = auto focus

i really like the idea of both...i think i have a few years of manual focus left in these aging eyes but then i really like autofocus too.

anyone making/made this comparison/purchase?

what was it that pushed to one or the other?

just these 2 cameras...ok? i cannot afford an m9 and no other af camera interests me atm.
 
I have the XP1 and no experience with the Leica (or any Leica) so take this for what it's worth. I'm in love with the Fuji. The controls are intuitive to me and the 'problems' that I read so much about just haven't been a problem to me at all. Having AF is nice, especially when my old eyes are tired. If I had the money for both, I might take the Leica but I'd think twice because of the age of the bodies at this point. However, that said, the M8.2 are still quite a bit more than the XP1.
 
Wouldn't the 8.2 essentially duplicate your existing experience with the rd1? If u bought the 8.2, would u still keep the rd1s?

Gary
 
back alley said:
good point...i think i will keep at least one rd1 forever...
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With both the rd1 and xp1, they are both 1.5x. The 8.x Leicas are 1.3x... I remember comments in the Leica forum from some who did not seem to like the 1.3x.. For me, it would not matter after the first two days. By then I would have figured out which lens focal lengths work for me🙂

Even though I have owned Leica in the past, my favorite 35mm film camera was really the Contax G2, so it was a no brainier for me ... Xp1

Gary
 
Hi, x-pro has better iso capability....a smaller sensor....the m8.2 has manual focus and a large amount of great lenses fo fit.

I don´t see too much things in common except for the fuji sht to ressemble a RF.

I don´t use AF cameras....but if the x-pro is fast and accurate it would be nice!
 
Monochrom said:
Hi, x-pro has better iso capability....a smaller sensor....the m8.2 has manual focus and a large amount of great lenses fo fit.

I don´t see too much things in common except for the fuji sht to ressemble a RF.

I don´t use AF cameras....but if the x-pro is fast and accurate it would be nice!
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got any images taken with the m9 plus the rollei 40?
 
These are very different options with rather different sets of advantages and disadvantages.

Why not make a list of advantages and disadvantages for each camera. Then prioritize all four lists. This might give you some insight and clarify the situation.

I will say I don't think you can make a terrible mistake either way. People seem happy and productive with both cameras.
 
I own an X100 which from what I read handles like the XP1. I bought an M8 recently and I'm so happy with it and I'm thinking of selling my X100 to buy a Canon S95/100 instead.

My biggest reason is I like true RF shooting style and equipment does play a part. I may not make better photographs but I honk I'll enjoy shooting more with the M8.

Cheers!
 
back alley said:
anyone making/made this comparison/purchase?
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I own and use both... and cannot decide which one I'd get rid if I had to. There's nothing like a Leica M... and sometimes, it is just a rangefinder day (and I no longer use film). However, the X-Pro1 is more versatile with its high ISO, AF, and its close focus capabilities.

I can say that I sold my M9 once I got the Fuji. However, I couldn't be without a M so I bought a M8.
 
I own an M8 and tried out the X-Pro1 after it came out, thinking it could be a great replacement - especially due to the higher ISO and the image quality. After playing with it for a short time (so take this with a grain of salt), I was somewhat disappointed though, as I had planned to keep using some of my M-lenses (the Fuji 35mm seems great, the other two less so and I wanted more focal length/speed options), but manual focussing was quite underwhelming (besides the frame line illumination problem, you have to use the EVF, magnify to focus, then switch off the magnification, reframe - I found it cumbersome - the "focus peaking" implementation in other cameras makes more sense to me) and auto-focussing not really fast enough to give me much of an advantage over a manual rangefinder. Finally I just love the simplicity of the Leica - it's a personal preference, but I'm a fan of the reduced and directly accessible set-up of the digital Ms vs. the gazillion menu options on the Fuji.

Either way, I would probably wait until Photokina, as there might be an update (or so the rumor sites makes us believe) to the Fuji X-Line. I'm not sure how M8-Prices will develop, but if you buy it after Photokina, you could try it for a while and - if you don't like it - sell it without much/any loss - especially as you already have a couple of M-lenses.
 
Wondering the Same Thing

Wondering the Same Thing

I have an M2 and five M mount lenses as well as an X100. I love both and am trying to decide between an M8 or 8.2 and the XPro1.

I enjoy using the M2 for its classic approach and the X100 blows my socks off (results are that good). And I am ready to move into the modern era (not getting rid of the M2).

So, of course I am wondering if the M8 is worth the money (say $2500) or if I should get the XPro1 and a couple lenses for about the same money.

Don't really think I would want to shoot the M lenses on the XPro1.
 
not interested in Fuji at all. complicated sensor to process, don't like the ergonomics.

M8 is a good camera. got the lenses for it? buy it, particularly if you use mostly wide angles.

when it comes to image quality, imo it doesn't matter.
 
M 8.2:
Lens coding.
UV/IR filters.
Solms may not be servicing them anymore.
Won't mount the 50mm D.R. Summicron. A pox on Leitz!

Fuji:
Cumbersom/Not good for use with rangefinder lenses.
Fuji lenses not terrible to quite good. Depending on who talk to.

Probably an apples-oranges comparison. Try to handle both. Flip a coin.

Wayne
 
venchka said:
M 8.2:
Lens coding.
UV/IR filters.
Solms may not be servicing tham anymore.
Won't mount the 50mm D.R. Summicron. A pox on Leitz!

Fuji:
Cumbersom/Not good for use with rangefinder lenses.
Fuji lenses not terrible to quite good. Depending on who talk to.

Probably an apples-oranges comparison. Try to handle both. Flip a coin.

Wayne
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While I was typing this last night, a gentleman The Netherlands shared several photos from his X-Pro-1 with the 3 Fuji lenses and the C/V 15mm/f 4.5 rangefinder lens "on a cheap ebay M adapter". I saw nothing wrong and a lot right with all of the photos.
So much for what you read on the internet. Believe what you see!
Useful service life down the road says: Fujifilm X-Pro-1.

Wayne

EDIT TO ADD:/EDIT TO REVISE-DISREGARD THE RAW FILE CONCERNS BELOW.

The waters get murky. Has this situation changed?

Quote from review of the X-Pro 1 at Luminous Landscape...

RAW Processing (or the lack of it)
The X-Pro1 produces yet another accursed proprietary file. And Lightroom does not support it, because Fuji has not cooperated with the resident RAW processing geniuses at Adobe to make it happen. This is kind of a disaster. No one on the planet likes or uses the camera-makers' software. The market has spoken, and there are only two RAW processors: Lightroom and Capture One. For a camera to be usable by serious photographers, there simply has to be RAW support on these processing platforms. Please, please, please FUJI, cooperate with Adobe and Phase One, ASAP to make this happen.

Yes, for those who will write and complain – there's also Aperture, DxO, and even Twinkybits.
Nick is just being hyperbolic. This is also an opinion piece, not a software catalog. – Ed.

Since the X-Trans sensor is different in its fundamental architecture, it seems likely that Fuji's inside-knowledge of the sensor will be needed for any raw engine to get the most out of it. Working with Adobe and Phase One to do this would be the single greatest service Fuji could do for its customers. Being quite a responsive company, I am optimistic Fuji will make this happen.

Since I was dying the see what RAWs looked like, I invested some time into trying to figure out the Silkypix-powered RAW converter provided by Fuji. It was usable, but there is really no point. To Fuji's credit, the in-camera jpegs are really very good, and in-camera RAW processing allows one to cook jpegs of various flavours from RAW files.

Nick Devlin
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According to jsroclit (below), I can use Lightroom with the Fuji RAW files. Now I need to approach the Minister of the Finances and Keeper of the Purse Strings for a Purchase Order.

Wayne
 
Godfrey said:
not interested in Fuji at all. complicated sensor to process, don't like the ergonomics.

M8 is a good camera. got the lenses for it? buy it, particularly if you use mostly wide angles.

when it comes to image quality, imo it doesn't matter.
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😕 complicated sensor to process???
 
M 8.2 was the best buy I did the last few years
I returned the xp1 after one weekend.

I notice tons of unsold used xp1 in local classifieds, most want to sell quickly or trade for an M8, the M8 is that good on pixel level even if its 10 mpx only.

Actually it s so good and well built that i might keep it even when I would go for a used M9 mid term
 
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