FUJiFILM FinePix M1 EXR Micro 4/3 camera

[bmattock]

I don't know if Samsung's new format or camera will make it, but I think Nick's logic is sound.

 

[apconan]

No, the topic of this camera appears in at least two threads, both times brought up by you. So, no, you are not 'responding'.

As for why I think the camera won't succeed: 'Serious' photographers aren't the largest group of buyers of micro 4/3rds. As judged by Olympus' advertising, the type of people walking around streets with the ep's or gf1s, and also working in a camera store, I can tell you that the core group is from customers who want more versataility and quality than point-and-shoots, but don't want a large camera. The NX1 is too large.

At the same time, most people who buy entry-level DSLRS are people who want them because they are big and make them look cool at social functions. The NX1 isn't big enough.

There are other reasons, but the main reason is that Samsung is targeting a market that isn't nearly as big as they think it is.

 

[NickTrop]

I don't know if Samsung's new format or camera will make it, but I think Nick's logic is sound.

Bill - in case you haven't noticed, it's always sound (unless I'm being a wiseacre... which I do sometimes :angel🙂

 

[bmattock]

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2010/01/123_59273.html

01-19-2010 16:32
Samsung Denies M&A Deal With Pentax
By Kim Yoo-chul
Staff Reporter

Samsung Digital Imaging (SDI), Samsung Electronics' affiliate, has denied the possibility of buying Japan's Pentax Corp.

Park Sang-jin, president and CEO of Samsung Digital Imaging, said the company will maintain its current links with its Japanese partner.

"The need for the acquisition of Pentax has been reduced as Samsung has already internalized key camera-related technologies such as image sensors," the CEO said during a meeting with reporters in Seoul, Tuesday.

...

The executive said Samsung won't inject massive capital into the DSLR camera market due to low margins and the ongoing corporate shift toward the hybrid camera market.

"A very well-known Japanese company has been reeling from some 50-60 billion won in losses per year over the last few years in the DSLR market. We have no clear reason to strengthen DSLRs," according to the CEO.

 

[NickTrop]

No, the topic of this camera appears in at least two threads, both times brought up by you. So, no, you are not 'responding'.

What are you? The RFF thread police? If you "get" RFF photography, which really has nothing to do with the focusing mechanism as the Barnack ideal of a small inobtrusive camera and the type of photography such an animal produces in the right hands, this is the first camera that isn't, to quote Ayn Rand, a "second hander" like these so-called "retro" cameras, or that marries 50 year old technologies to new technologies. And - importantly to me, at least, it's affordable to the masses. (Thank God Leica didn't come up with this... but Leica stopped innovating cameras shortly after the M3). Only took around a decade for the first real digital "rangefinder" to finally happen. I'm posting a lot about it because I'm excited about it - and if you "get" rangefinder photography (...am I the only one on this forum?), you would be excited about this offering too.

 

[bmattock]

Bill - in case you haven't noticed, it's always sound (unless I'm being a wiseacre... which I do sometimes :angel🙂

You'll notice I didn't say you were right; just that your logic was sound. My logic is at times smeared like Doctor Frankenfurter's mascara, but I'm generally right anyway. Not sure which is better.

Don't dream it, be it. - Dr. Frank.

 

[apconan]

What are you? The RFF thread police? If you "get" RFF photography, which really has nothing to do with the focusing mechanism as the Barnack ideal of a small inobtrusive camera and the type of photography such an animal produces in the right hands, this is the first camera that isn't, to quote Ayn Rand, a "second hander" like these so-called "retro" cameras, or that marries 50 year old technologies to new technologies. And - importantly to me, at least, it's affordable to the masses. (Thank God Leica didn't come up with this... but Leica stopped innovating cameras shortly after the M3). Only took around a decade for the first real digital "rangefinder" to finally happen. I'm posting a lot about it because I'm excited about it - and if you "get" rangefinder photography (...am I the only one on this forum?), you would be excited about this offering too.

And here's the problem with your argument. This whole time you've been speaking of how the Samsung will shake up the camera industry.

How many people who buy digital cameras know about, let alone care about, rangefinder photography?

 

[Leigh Youdale]

I think some people are getting a bit overexcited. My prediction is that this will just turn out to be another competent camera with similar features to many others, a few that are an incremental improvement, and that six months after it hits the market there will be another rush of blood to the head over some other new offering.
Certainly the digital tide has turned in favour of the giant electronics companies and it will be hard for more traditional companies to compete head on - if they're sensible they won't try. They'll identify their niche market, work on their unique selling points and have to be content with survival in that area. If they put their heads up they'll likely end up as road kill as the giants ruthlessly try to dominate the popular digital market range. Some might even decide the game isn't worth the candle and quietly just shut down their photographic arm to concentrate on something they can make money at.

 

[gavinlg]

Eh... it has a samsung sensor. Didn't like those in the pentax cameras whatsoever. Strange oversaturated blues and greens.