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i figure it's this camera or a really good lens...choice wise, that is.
kuzano
Veteran
Which is why this comment is so "Right On"
Which is why this comment is so "Right On"
I watched a fellow at a seminar giving advice to women on finding the right man.
Simply put, it was stated:
"Drastically lower your expectations"
Might be rightfully said that this is good advice in perusing new cameras as well. Particularly for those who think there is still any interest in the camera manufacturing market for the rangefinder focus system.
Which is why this comment is so "Right On"
Only if your expectations are unrealistic.
I watched a fellow at a seminar giving advice to women on finding the right man.
Simply put, it was stated:
"Drastically lower your expectations"
Might be rightfully said that this is good advice in perusing new cameras as well. Particularly for those who think there is still any interest in the camera manufacturing market for the rangefinder focus system.
What I personally find most interested is that Fuji is answering product questions. It's nice to see that a manufacturer is actually paying attention to its customers.
Leads me to believe that are actually going to deliver on this camera.
I watched a fellow at a seminar giving advice to women on finding the right man.
Simply put, it was stated:
"Drastically lower your expectations"
Hahaha, very true for anyone seeking a partner. It's all about compromises. For me, it is can I deal with this person on a day to day basis. I find it is the same with cameras for me.
samuelphoto
Established
The fact that the focusing location is selectable (like on DSLR's) makes it much more useable and clearly not a point and shoot.
igi
Well-known
I hardly think any camera with dials, aperture and focus rings qualify as a point and shoot not can be used as a point and shoot.
"[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]no rangefinder focusing capability[/FONT]"
just another point and shoot, nothing to get too excited over.
bob
DNG
Film Friendly
point the camera at something, it focuses itself, then takes a picture for you... sounds accurate to me.
I can do that with my M5 28mm using "hyper-focus" scale.
Never though of an M5 as a p/s though.
"...all things are possible....
bwcolor
Veteran
If it isn't an 11x14 view camera, it is a point and shoot.
Who cares what you call it?
Who cares what you call it?
keithdunlop
www.keithdunlop.com
Leads me to believe that are actually going to deliver on this camera.
I'm sure hoping that they do!
I don't really care what you call it. People get far too hung up on "is it a rangefinder" -- "is it a point and shoot". That doesn't really interest me. I'm a photographer. What floats my boat is an interesting camera that fits a niche for me when I don't want to carry my D3, but need a little more functionality than my M6. AF, manual control when you want it, and video in a rangefinder-size package, are all winners in my book.
Assuming that Fuji comes through with the promised product, I see the camera as just one more tool in my bag that I will use in my work.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
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The fact that they say "yes" as opposed to "only in the EVF" gives me hope that a focus confirmation will light up on the focus point in the OVF as well.
The site says:
With manual focus selected, focusing is achieved using the focus ring around the lens barrel. A distance indication bar enables you to pre-focus if required, or you can simply use the electronic viewfinder to focus accurately. There is, however, no rangefinder focusing capability.
In other words, that is zone-focusing.
No focus confirmation in manual and no rangefinder, the choice will be either zone focusing or AF.
It may still be a digital Hexar, but it won't be a digital RF.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
It's nice to see that a manufacturer is actually paying attention to its customers.
Fujidigital not Fujifilm.
keithdunlop
www.keithdunlop.com
Fujidigital not Fujifilm.
Huh? I don't understand the point of your post. The engraving on the top plate says "Fujifilm".
keithdunlop
www.keithdunlop.com
What concerns me more than anything right now is the proprietary RAW format.
According to the site: "The X100 captures 12-bit RAW images using the RAF file type that can be converted using customised Silkypix software; a copy of which is provided with the camera. Please note Fujifilm is co-operating fully to ensure that X100 RAF file support is added to third party applications as soon as possible. This compatibility is expected to be offered via a firmware update within a few months of launch. "
So I won't be able to import the RAW files into Lightroom until some unknown number of months after the camera is released? That's a major problem in my book. Just make the RAW file a DNG.
According to the site: "The X100 captures 12-bit RAW images using the RAF file type that can be converted using customised Silkypix software; a copy of which is provided with the camera. Please note Fujifilm is co-operating fully to ensure that X100 RAF file support is added to third party applications as soon as possible. This compatibility is expected to be offered via a firmware update within a few months of launch. "
So I won't be able to import the RAW files into Lightroom until some unknown number of months after the camera is released? That's a major problem in my book. Just make the RAW file a DNG.
johannielscom
Snorting silver salts
I read that too.
Seems they made a change to the RAF files that the Fujifilm cameras write, that sets them apart from the files the S3 Pro and S5 Pro create.
I'm pretty sure Adobe Camera Raw would not take months to release a new version that incorporates the altered RAF format, and in ACR you can change a file to DNG. From there on it's all straight forward on to any other application.
Seems they made a change to the RAF files that the Fujifilm cameras write, that sets them apart from the files the S3 Pro and S5 Pro create.
I'm pretty sure Adobe Camera Raw would not take months to release a new version that incorporates the altered RAF format, and in ACR you can change a file to DNG. From there on it's all straight forward on to any other application.
zumbido
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The camera would need some distance determination capability, which is not possible with contrast autofocus. So yes, there cannot be an RF patch.
Sure it is. It doesn't matter what kind of autofocus is used. The cameras knows exactly what distance it is focused to at any given time (it's a simple mathematical function). It's simple (and has been done) to have a software "rf patch" display.
The fact that it doesn't really make an appearance in cameras very often should tell you something about how many people the camera companies think would actually want to use it. Hint: not many. SLRs "won" for a reason, though I like everyone here like the RF approach for some things, sometimes.
Faintandfuzzy
Well-known
point the camera at something, it focuses itself, then takes a picture for you... sounds accurate to me.
Hmmm.....guess that makes the Pentax 645D a point and shoot as well. Care to guess which has higher quality, an M8 or M9....or the 645D Point and shoot? Geesh....:bang:
Spyro
Well-known
I hardly think any camera with dials, aperture and focus rings qualify as a point and shoot not can be used as a point and shoot.
For most people the definition of a p&s has to do with the size, if it doesnt look like it will give wrist pains after 2 hours it is immediately classed as a p&s. Achieving art through suffering.
For me an RF would be irrelevant to anything with such a wide lens anyway. It might be cropped to 35 but it still has the dof of a 24, hence I wouldnt use RF anyway, zone focusing is way faster.
My question is, will the lens have an infinity stop or will it turn forever like those silly m4:3 lenses? It would be nice to add a tab and focus by feel.
M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
If it isn't an 11x14 view camera, it is a point and shoot.
Who cares what you call it?
hmmm 11 x 14.... I used to shoot small format too.
If it ain't 16 x 20... it's small format.....
noimmunity
scratch my niche
For me an RF would be irrelevant to anything with such a wide lens anyway. It might be cropped to 35 but it still has the dof of a 24, hence I wouldnt use RF anyway, zone focusing is way faster.
My question is, will the lens have an infinity stop or will it turn forever like those silly m4:3 lenses? It would be nice to add a tab and focus by feel.
If only it were a 24 FOV, like a Fuji Natura Black with manual control!
+1 for the tab, or possibly click stops along the way.
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I wonder if this silkypix program is compatible with Apple Aperture. I wouldn't want it if it's going to get in the way of downloading to Aperture.
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