Fujifilm X-T10/X-Pro 1

[BillBingham2]

If there's not money burning a hole in your pocket or event to need to cover, I'd say wait till you can hold the X-T10. It a bit of savings that could find a bit of glass...

Compare the view finders when they are in your hands, then pull the trigger.

B2

 

[macjim]

If there's not money burning a hole in your pocket or event to need to cover, I'd say wait till you can hold the X-T10. It a bit of savings that could find a bit of glass... Compare the view finders when they are in your hands, then pull the trigger. B2

you could be right.

 

[macjim]

Now the proud owner of a silver and black X-T10 with the metal hand grip. Cool.

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[willie_901]

Now the proud owner of a silver and black X-T10 with the metal hand grip. Cool.

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Congratulations!

 

[Bike Tourist]

I was considering the X-T10 to provide a second body to my X-Pro1 to avoid changing lenses too much in the field. Then I saw that both are selling for the same price right now and I'd rather have a second X-Pro1. But soon (we hope) the X-Pro2 will appear.

Back to square one. Nothing to do but wait.

 

[jsrockit]

I wouldn't be shocked if we never see a X-Pro2 at this point. It just seems like way too much time has gone by for them to be able to deliver vs. the competition.

 

[macjim]

I wouldn't be shocked if we never see a X-Pro2 at this point. It just seems like way too much time has gone by for them to be able to deliver vs. the competition.

if you believe the rumours, they are waiting on Sony bringing out the A7000 so that Fujifilm can use the sensor. It appears that that camera is about to be announced so maybe the X-Pro2 isn't far away. Still, although I miss my X100s and my X-Pro1, and would like to own an X-T1, the X-T10 has impressed me greatly.

 

[Jim Evidon]

What to buy, what to buy?

What to buy, what to buy?

I own the X-Pro1 and have not been inclined to replace it until or if Fuji comes out with an upgraded model ( XP-2? ). But a very discriminating and respected friend of mine, a long time Canon enthusiast who would never think of any other brand switched to the Fuji XT-1, which got me to thinking.

I love the hybrid finder of the XP-1 which is why I bought the thing with full knowledge that it had some problems such as IQ of the EVF, slower operation and alleged smearing of foliage. Since then I never looked back.
The camera is a remarkable image maker.

Recently, I checked the comparative IQ's on DP Review's comparison page.

The only real world difference I can determine is that the XT-1 has ever so slightly brighter colors in RAW. I never shoot anything else. But since I post process anyway, the slightly brighter color issue is not significant.The IQ as displayed on the site is not so different that I'd be tempted to buy the XT-1 or the XT-10. Lab results may show better images with the T's over the P, but will the difference really be apparent in the real world?

I'll wait to see if they replace the X-Pro1 with a new hybrid finder model and I may consider the switch if the EVF on the new model is significantly better, assuming everything else like sensor size and resolution remain the same. The XP-1 is still just that good.

 

[f16sunshine]

I own the X-Pro1 and have not been inclined to replace it until or if Fuji comes out with an upgraded model ( XP-2? ). But a very discriminating and respected friend of mine, a long time Canon enthusiast who would never think of any other brand switched to the Fuji XT-1, which got me to thinking.

I love the hybrid finder of the XP-1 which is why I bought the thing with full knowledge that it had some problems such as IQ of the EVF, slower operation and alleged smearing of foliage. Since then I never looked back.
The camera is a remarkable image maker.

Recently, I checked the comparative IQ's on DP Review's comparison page.

The only real world difference I can determine is that the XT-1 has ever so slightly brighter colors in RAW. I never shoot anything else. But since I post process anyway, the slightly brighter color issue is not significant.The IQ as displayed on the site is not so different that I'd be tempted to buy the XT-1 or the XT-10. Lab results may show better images with the T's over the P, but will the difference really be apparent in the real world?

I'll wait to see if they replace the X-Pro1 with a new hybrid finder model and I may consider the switch if the EVF on the new model is significantly better, assuming everything else like sensor size and resolution remain the same. The XP-1 is still just that good.

I just traded my Xpro1 for another XE1. I could have gone for an XE2 opted for two identical cameras with the exact same output.
I now run two XE1 bodies and an X100c in black! :8

I just don't see a reason to "upgrade" fuji bodies until there is a major change to the sensor density/size/phyolsophy.
The Xtrans 2 models seem to have less pleasant In camera processed output.
The xpro1 and XE1 have the best looking files of the current xtrans models.
They seem more open and airy. B+W conversions seem more natural (read: film-ish).
I've read others say the same. It's splitting hairs but eventually hairs add up.

At this point upgrading would require some serious changes.
I would prefer a 24MP "XE3" with the same EVF the XT1 sports plus dual card slots.
I would take a bit larger body that could house a bit larger batteries and a lot more powerful processor.
Write times and lagging are still an issue with these cameras. I come from a 5Dii where nothing ever lags and write times are not even a consideration.

Fuji rocks though. Very happy with the system!

 

[bayernfan]

Glanced over the posts, but if you're using manual focus lenses.. get the X-T1. The viewfinder is utterly amazing. You can use two simultaneous windows in the EVF, one for composition/exposure and one for critical focus.

If you don't ever see yourself using MF lenses, or don't need the weather sealing... save some money and get the X-T10.

 

[willie_901]

The XTrans II data stream delivers a small, but real increase in analog signal-to-noise ratio and dynamic range. There is a reason why the XTrans II cameras have a 14 bit ADC while the XTrans cameras have a 12 bit ADC. As SNR increases, more ADC bits become useful. Noise is replaced by low-level signals which should be digitized.

I own both the X-Pro 1 and X-T1. In practice the SNR difference in the XTrans II and XTrans SNR is unimportant. In extremely low light or challenging DR scenes, the XTrans II camera could make a slight difference. But these circumstance are rare for most photographers.

However the raw files are different. In my experience, highlight recovery is easier to render with Xtrans II raw while shadows are more compressed (crushed). It's as if the EV=0 point shifted towards the highlights by a stop. So the rendering strategies I use are different depending on the sensor.

I prefer to use the X-Pro 1 because I enjoy the using the OVF. I am thinking of selling both my X-T1 bodies and a couple of Fujinon lenses and picking up the X100T with both teleconverters. Then the X-Pro 1 would be a backup camera or used with the 14mm or 56 mm lenses.

As far as the X-Pro 2 goes, no actually one (outside of Fujifilm) knows any specifics about this product or when it will reach the market.

 

[kuzano]

Size and side by side between the X-T1 and X-T10 Fujifilm

http://camerasize.com/compare/#620,520

and X-T10 comparison X-Pro1

http://camerasize.com/compare/#620,258

 

[Bike Tourist]

I am in a similar position. Love my XPro1. Realize its faults. Know how great the XT1 is. (thought XT10 is ugly too) My own solution is to sit tight and squirrel away my acorns for when the XPro2 comes out.

Yeah, me too. I have two X-Pro1s and just biding my time waiting for the 2 version. I don't think my photography is influenced that much by which model with the same sensor I own/use. For me, it's the viewfinder experience, the ability to use a diopter out of the range of the other models and the dual OVF/EVF.

 

[Bike Tourist]

I just traded my Xpro1 for another XE1. I could have gone for an XE2 opted for two identical cameras with the exact same output.
I now run two XE1 bodies and an X100c in black! :8

I just don't see a reason to "upgrade" fuji bodies until there is a major change to the sensor density/size/phyolsophy.
The Xtrans 2 models seem to have less pleasant In camera processed output.
The xpro1 and XE1 have the best looking files of the current xtrans models.
They seem more open and airy. B+W conversions seem more natural (read: film-ish).
I've read others say the same. It's splitting hairs but eventually hairs add up.

At this point upgrading would require some serious changes.
I would prefer a 24MP "XE3" with the same EVF the XT1 sports plus dual card slots.
I would take a bit larger body that could house a bit larger batteries and a lot more powerful processor.
Write times and lagging are still an issue with these cameras. I come from a 5Dii where nothing ever lags and write times are not even a consideration.

Fuji rocks though. Very happy with the system!

Andy, sure glad we have our preferences! It worked out for both of us.

 

[f16sunshine]

Andy, sure glad we have our preferences! It worked out for both of us.

Yes it was a great trade. Thank you again.
I used the xe1 pair for a large event last weekend.
It was a full sun day and indeed those little fill flashes were very handy 🙂