Full size sensor confirmed by Fuji

[f16sunshine]

It reminds me of a joke my girlfriends kids tell.

Sylvester Stalone and Arnold Swartzeneger are bragging in the bar one day.

Arnold asks Sylevester.. "Hey how many Push opps do you do in a day?" .
Sylvester says 300 then looks at Arnold and asks ... "Yo Arnold.. how many do you doo?"
Arnold leans back in his chair folds his arms and say " All of them".

Full size sensor.... All of it 😛

 

[Ko.Fe.]

Fool size sensor!

At FF prices? Hardly.

I checked B&H prices.

Sony A7r is $2K, Canon 6D is $1.6K and Fuji X-Pro1 is $0.9K, surprisingly.
I remember it to cost much more...

 

[GaryLH]

It is a vicious cycle in the digital merry go round these days. Sony has made it worst since they are known for pushing out new camera bodies..sometimes variations of same model in less than a year. Once the initial stampede on a new product is over, it seems that the vicous price reduction cycle is kicking sooner these days. Great for the consumer, but I can't believe this is good for the bottom line of these companies.

For me..I am very happy w/ the gear I have right now. I will replace things as they break. I can wait a multiple release cycles now and only upgrade if I feel the price is right even for tech that is much better than what I currently have.

The only new tech that has my interest is the organic sensor being worked on jointly by Panasonic and Fuji. The only announcement that would make me jump would be a monochrome sensor from Fuji (highly doubt this would ever happen).

For my type of photography, the Sigma foveon sensors work the best anyway.. In reality, at the end of the day, everything else is just gear head gas. 😛 😀

Gary

 

[daveleo]

These rumors and teasers are the movie trailers of the photo industry. They are always better than the movie.

 

[willie_901]

To me, it just sounds like bad marketing speak or possibly a translation issue and not a real indication of a forthcoming full-frame sensor from Fuji.

This is highly likely.

A pseudo-medium format sensor - like those used by Hasselblad, Mamiya, Leica and Pentax - is more likely than a new 24 x36mm sensor-based system.

I do not believe FUJIFILM must offer a 24 x 36 mm sensor during the next three years to survive.

 

[jsrockit]

At what point should we stop upgrading our gear?

It's a personal decision... so, whenever YOU are satisfied. Digital = computer.... computers need to be upgraded every so often, especially when digital cameras are in their infancy. Back on topic: I would say note that it said full size, not full frame.

 

[uhoh7]

I do not believe FUJIFILM must offer a 24 x 36 mm sensor during the next three years to survive.

I bet you a six-pack of good beer FUJIFILM will announce a FF within three years from this date.

If they are not out of business, that is. 🙂

Winner to receive beer money via paypal.

Yes?

 

[Bob Michaels]

Could it be that we believe that we are indicative of the digital camera market dwelling on the fine details of specs, spending more time on the internet than photographing, and believing that for a camera to really be worthwhile that the sensor must be the same size as 35mm film?

Or, could it be that the majority of the camera market is really focused on visual image quality and ease of use while not really worrying about specs, internet chatter or the actual size of the sensor?

Last night I was chatting with an event photographer at a reasonably prime event. She said she had been making a living as an event photographer for a number of years. She said had heard of Tri-X but knew nothing about what it was. She thought Tri-X may have been a company that once made film. But she wasn't sure because she had never shot film. Does she worry that the sensor in her Canon 7D was or was not the size of a piece of 35mm film? Of course not because she really did not know how big 35mm film was.

 

[Trooper]

Could it be that we believe that we are indicative of the digital camera market dwelling on the fine details of specs, spending more time on the internet than photographing, and believing that for a camera to really be worthwhile that the sensor must be the same size as 35mm film?

Or, could it be that the majority of the camera market is really focused on visual image quality and ease of use while not really worrying about specs, internet chatter or the actual size of the sensor?

Last night I was chatting with an event photographer at a reasonably prime event. She said she had been making a living as an event photographer for a number of years. She said had heard of Tri-X but knew nothing about what it was. She thought Tri-X may have been a company that once made film. But she wasn't sure because she had never shot film. Does she worry that the sensor in her Canon 7D was or was not the size of a piece of 35mm film? Of course not because she really did not know how big 35mm film was.

I completely agree. I desire a FX Nikon, but only because it will work just like my film Nikons did with my collection of Nikon glass. I'm perfectly happy with my Fuji X series with its smaller sensor and lenses that were designed for it. But, I do believe a 35mm sized sensor will be introduced by Fuji, just to keep up with Sony.

 

[back alley]

but fuji and sony behave so differently in how they conduct business…i don't think fuji see sony as competition.

 

[uhoh7]

but fuji and sony behave so differently in how they conduct business…i don't think fuji see sony as competition.

Sony is desperate that all their sensor customers survive.

They are walking a tightrope: push the envelope, but keep disruption of the market to a minimum.

So the A7 has many good things about it, but just a few incredibly silly things which prevent the camera from doing the damage it might to the competition.

"oh boy, this thing looks too good, lets slap a thick sensor cover on it, and go slow with the lens line. Oh yeah, keep the horrible menu system too. Be sure the shutter can be heard in the next room."
😉

Very likely the fuji FF would have a sony sensor, like the D810.

There must be a special committee somewhere in the Sony bowels to prevent Sony products from putting Sony customers out of business.

"oh, oh, look at this, we have a hot "brand", the Nex. Accidentally it shoots every lens ever made pretty good. People getting too excited about this one. We call the new model "A6000". Nex? We never heard of "Nex"! that should take of it" 🙂

All that said, I can see why many love the X system now. Lots of great shots in here. 🙂

 

[Highway 61]

These rumors and teasers are the movie trailers of the photo industry. They are always better than the movie.

Dunno what - this makes me think of those darn Nikon Df teasers... 😀

 

[dogberryjr]

It'd be nice if Fuji did come up with a FF sensor. I'm shooting less and less film and unless someone comes out with an affordable digital that I can use my Leica lenses on, I'm feeling like I'll be selling everything with a red dot.

 

[GaryLH]

Sony is desperate that all their sensor customers survive.

They are walking a tightrope: push the envelope, but keep disruption of the market to a minimum.

So the A7 has many good things about it, but just a few incredibly silly things which prevent the camera from doing the damage it might to the competition.

"oh boy, this thing looks too good, lets slap a thick sensor cover on it, and go slow with the lens line. Oh yeah, keep the horrible menu system too. Be sure the shutter can be heard in the next room."
😉

Very likely the fuji FF would have a sony sensor, like the D810.

There must be a special committee somewhere in the Sony bowels to prevent Sony products from putting Sony customers out of business.

"oh, oh, look at this, we have a hot "brand", the Nex. Accidentally it shoots every lens ever made pretty good. People getting too excited about this one. We call the new model "A6000". Nex? We never heard of "Nex"! that should take of it" 🙂

All that said, I can see why many love the X system now. Lots of great shots in here. 🙂

Lol.. That is definitely a different perspective. They do have some rather dumb things they have done to the Nex and the a7.. The one I always have to explain to friends that have never used a Sony is where is the macro button question... Sigh....it is a stupid scene mode..

Gary

 

[macjim]

Fuji would appear to have corrected their misleading message: http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-...nsors-aps-c-sensors-rivals-full-frame-sensor/

 

[Lauffray]

Come on, trying new gear is fun. I don't even do digital and I feel like trying some of the new stuff. It's the buying I don't want to do, just to try it out. I'm more than happy with my current setup

 

[willie_901]

Silly me... I thought Fujifilm used a Toshiba CMOS product. However I have never seen any data regarding who makes the CMOS semiconductor assembly.

Since Fujifilm does operate the Fujifilm Electronic Materials Color Mosaic products group. One of their products happens to be RGB filters for imaging sensors. I will recklessly speculate the X-Series uses proprietary color-filter array assemblies designed and manufactured by Fujifilm.

 

[eleskin]

Good news actually!

Good news actually!

Fuji would appear to have corrected their misleading message: http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-...nsors-aps-c-sensors-rivals-full-frame-sensor/

Now they are saying it will be APS-C but with true full frame resolution and performance. This is actually great news in that the Fuji X mount lenses are still current, quite capable of full frame like resolution, and we still have the benefits of better depth of field APS C crop for street photography . This is likely to be the X Pro-2 which I predict will be vastly improved over the X Pro-1, with a much better hybrid viewfinder and EVF technology, faster buffer, and similar layout to the X Pro-1.

 

[btgc]

Does she worry that the sensor in her Canon 7D was or was not the size of a piece of 35mm film? Of course not because she really did not know how big 35mm film was.

She could even not tell bus stop from f-stop....and still take admirable pictures. Or be technically fluent with all the tech and make only test shots. Or vice versa around. If there's sparkle it will show up no matter what.

 

[Lss]

Now they are saying it will be APS-C but with true full frame resolution and performance.

Fuji have been arguing that all along, haven't they? It is marketing, nothing more, nothing less.