Gallery Rating

[oftheherd]

Hello🙂

This is all happening far too quickly. IMHO the only problem the gallery ever had was that the occasional idiot newbie uploaded a large pile of dross in one hit. That's been fixed. The rest ain't broke, and we all know the form. Having a separate "critique" gallery is a recipe for two things: comfy biege and red hot flames. Just leave it be for a while to settle down before turning it into something completely different.

Cheers

ManGo

That is sort of why I voted no. I guess I like the forum like it is. I was never big on change. Did you know they have a way to make pictures move? eecck! 😱

 

[oftheherd]

I just put a picture in the new rating gallery. I cant see a rating can someone let me know if you can vote on it?

I didn't scroll down to see if anybody answered this, but yes, there is a rating system, as you no doubt know as some of the photos are already rated.

 

[Little Prince]

I have nothing in my gallery yet, so I don't know if my opinion counts. I couldn't just say yes or no, so I didn't vote. I think it's a good move overall to have a separate gallery for critique. I am not too keen on a numerical rating system. If it must be had, I feel it would be wise to insist on accompanying it with verbal comment. This is not so much for my sake as for others who understandably feel vexed by this idea. Even if it looks like a rule, it would at least dissuade the pnet kind of malcontents from spreading their misery everywhere.

 

[Doug]

Commentary as we've had it, yes, very useful. Ratings, as Roman observed, don't make much sense to me either. A separate gallery for ratings is fine, but I hope that doesn't mean people will be less likely to leave comments in the existing gallery. And shouldn't the rating infrastructure now be removed from the "old" gallery? (Ah, I see it has! Only the ratings themselves remain)

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

I think the question should be: Allow a Gallery with Ratings? that's different than allowing the current gallery to have ratings, I think...

 

[f/stopblues]

I voted no.

I feel like this is an easygoing refuge on the web and the galleries should reflect that disposition. Verbal critique can be very helpful and informative, but numbers are arbitrary and only useful on a surface level.

For example, I may have a spectacular photo with a crooked horizon line and the raters ding me for that, but I'd never know because of their unspecific nature. The examples could go on, not to mention retaliatory ratings, friends, etc. Verbal rating galleries would be ideal in my opinion.

Bottom line is that I enjoy the galleries as a place to view everyone's art.. not a forum to fluff egos.

Chris

 

[Skinny McGee]

Why do we need a rating system when people can comment on your photos as it is . Everyone can read the comments that people have made and you can respond to the comments if you like.... Just the acknowledgement that a fellow RRF member took the time to look and write something about your photo is nice rating in my opinion...

Thank you very Much I will step down now and let some one else have the Floor

Skinny

 

[jan normandale]

Why do we need a rating system when people can comment on your photos as it is . Everyone can read the comments that people have made and you can respond to the comments if you like.... Just the acknowledgement that a fellow RRF member took the time to look and write something about your photo is nice rating in my opinion...

Thank you very Much I will step down now and let some one else have the Floor

Skinny

Awww Skinny....

yer too nice, and make too much sense.

Jan

 

[f/stopblues]

I'm taking donations to launch a massive "Vote Blue or Die" campaign in P.Ditty's honor. Send money (cash or MO only) care of me, at my home in Kansas City. I'll see to it that all funds go towards advertisement and slanderous nonsense aimed at knocking those "Yes" people down to size. Once the RFF public sees the Red Regime's plans for a hostile takeover of the Gallery, they'll rise above the Evil and vote Blue.

Don't be stingy!

 

[RJBender]

Why do we need a rating system when people can comment on your photos as it is . Everyone can read the comments that people have made and you can respond to the comments if you like.... Just the acknowledgement that a fellow RRF member took the time to look and write something about your photo is nice rating in my opinion...

Thank you very Much I will step down now and let some one else have the Floor

Skinny

Ratings would be more appropriate for a competition. The gallery should be informal and ratings would turn it into a competition. How many times do you visit a gallery just to see samples from a particular camera or see what a RRF member likes to photograph? Just my 2¢ worth.

R.J.

 

[24x30]

I voted 'no' because the number without knowing the standards of the person who give you the rates is sensless. I rated some images at p.net and had afterwards to explain why I just rated it average or below. It seems to me that the people just wanted some compliments.

/rudi

 

[hoot]

Having a separate gallery for our best work is, in my opinion, a good idea, but I'm not so sure it should allow ratings; not just because of the hit-and-run factor but because you can't just rate art on a scale of one to ten.

 

[pvdhaar]

I'm all for comments, but I'm not in favour of ratings. After all, comments can point to ways to improve your pictures. But what are you going to do with a score? From my -albeit somewhat limited- experience with ratings/comments on pnet, I can tell that I'm much more delighted with comment -even when critical- than with a top rating..

Besides, I think a rating system will do to RFF what it has done to pnet. That is, become a source of endless -if not pointless- discussion about the values, about hi-jacking the system, about fairness etc. etc.

 

[jmilkins]

I like receiving and leaving comments - though I admit in both cases its for encouragement rather than criticism.

a numerial ratings system? well, I think its a slippery slope without a verbal adjunct.

The specific gallery is a good compromise so long as people still comment on other images, not just the ones in the "ratings" gallery...

 

[Gabriel M.A.]

I agree with Rob.

It doesn't make sense to upload a pic into a public gallery and not expect anyone to comment on the image does it? (numerically or verbally).

Hmm...while I agree with your idea, I disagree with the logic. Because somebody goes outside it doesn't immediately imply that they have given permission to violate their privacy, just because they are out in public view. You could argue that if they wanted to be very private they would walk outside with a brown bag over their head and that would be a clear indication that they do not want their privacy to be invaded.

I think the same kind of logic applies for a "gallery". Somebody may want to show them to the general public, but they may not necessarily seek feedback. I think this is why it's a good idea to make ratings optional. Some people want feedback, others just want to show their work, nothing more. Not everybody has the same concept and idea of what a "gallery" is and what it should be used for (as has been sorely apparent by some of the massive photo uploaders in the past).

My twopence.

 

[Fred]

As my Dad used to say, " If it aint broke, don't fix it"

I didn't listen then but I think he might be right. 🙂

 

[rbiemer]

Ummm, can I change my vote? OK, not really but: you folks have made some perceptive and reasoned arguments against a numerical system. I have decided that # ratings aren't much use but verbal critques would be helpful(to me any way).
I will post something in that gallery but not necessarrily soon. I self edit very stringently(no, really. The 13 shots in my gallery are what I consider my best from the last six or seven months[40-50 rolls] of 35mm shooting.) so it might be a while before I get something I rate well enough to post there.
I had to stop taking my newly picked up photos to work with me as my co-workers got upset when I wouldn't just hand over the whole pile of prints for them to look at.
Rob

 

[nomade]

The # ratings express how much u liked the pic, and u always have the option of adding a comment, there r people who wouldn't comment but rate and even if there were no ratings they wouldn't comment anyway...I beleive numerical ratings cna be encouraging to say the least..

 

[Todd.Hanz]

I'm taking donations to launch a massive "Vote Blue or Die" campaign in P.Ditty's honor. Send money (cash or MO only) care of me, at my home in Kansas City. I'll see to it that all funds go towards advertisement and slanderous nonsense aimed at knocking those "Yes" people down to size. Once the RFF public sees the Red Regime's plans for a hostile takeover of the Gallery, they'll rise above the Evil and vote Blue.

Don't be stingy!

Drats, foiled again! Just when I was planning some voter intimidation in the gallery....Muahahahaha! 😱 😱 😡

Todd