Gallery Rules?

btgc said:
that's a good note 🙂 I'll add - or staring at websites w/ content far beyond what average RFF'r could photograph.

English isn't my native language. Do Number 4 "no sexually-orientated images etc." includes nudity ? I guess that sexuality referes to sexual contact and genitalia in sexual context, like erected penis or wet squirrel. Otherwise they are only parts of human body, aren't they ?

Hypothetically, if I post a photo of a woman urinating into a Domke F-5xb, I'll offend everyone!


And just for the record, are we allowed to say wet squirrel?
 
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In my opinion, that were better than most nudes because they were different, not your typical model and the expressions & tones were fantastic.
looks like the majority of opinion says put it back up (Frank, please do so)...the minority should back down and allow moderators to moderate.

wet squirrel 🙂 (thanks btgc...that term will keep me laughing all day)
 
This thing about "values" and more importantly relative values is always a tough one. Very recently (I believe this week) the London Underground has banned a pretty universally acknowledged work of art from being used to advertise an exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts on the grounds that they do not permits adverts that: “depict men, women or children in a sexual manner, or display nude or semi-nude figures in an overtly sexual context.”

The image can be seen at the end of the link below.

WARNING, the image depicts a woman wearing nothing but two necklaces, a gauze slip and jewelled headdress.

http://www.utalkmarketing.com/Pages/CreativeShowcase.aspx?ArticleID=4346&Filter=0&Keywords=&Order=LATEST&Page=1&Title=Royal_Academy_of_Arts_'Cranach'

Now, I am not comparing this to the two contentious images posted by Frank, I can't because I didn't see them, but I think it does illustrate the point that one man's art is another man's mucky picture.
 
sitemistic said:
I wonder if he finds photos of slashed and tortured kid's from some third world genocide that you see on the front page of newspapers every day less pornographic?

You are arguing a point of personal opinion. You both have equal right to your's the fact that Pixie has owned up to his should not be an issue and he should not be admonished for it. Neither of you are any more right or wrong than the other.
 
Pitxu said:
I can't understand your reasoning here Bill.

How would having "more women posting" make mock rape scenes more acceptable?



Pitxu.

It was a feeble attempt at humour, Richard. A play on words.

In fact, I was referring less to the subject matter at hand than to the testosterone-fuelled debates that seem to arise every so often in threads on this forum where men (invariably men) argue ping-pong style backwards and forwards trying to convince a zebra that black is white whilst simultaneously trying to have the last word even if it involves staying up until the wee small hours to press the [Submit Reply] button one more time.

Regards,

Bill
 
Hi Pitxu,

You have been perfectly Ok in your request, regardless of the images being offensive or not. You perceived they were crossing the line and sent a PM, I assume. I assume as well your PM was kind, respectfull and friendly.

I don't see any further point in entangling in further discussions about taste, nudity, etc. We are no kids at RFF, and we know when sometimes folks like to argue just for arguing.

Don't seat at the triyal chair. Don't feed the lyons.



Hi Frank Petronio,

The most important from my personal viewpoint, is not if your pictures were not offensive, but the fact that a member kindly asked from you to remove them.
Had I been in your shoes, when I get a very kind request of any sort, usually I react in a kind spirit.
What I am trying to say is that beyond the law, there is a spirit of friendship that it will not hurt to cultivate by every one.

Of course that there is no question that when I get a dry, angry smelling PM, I just ignore it.
I hope you find this helpfull.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
sitemistic said:
So one person's offense at the image trumps the many who would have liked to seen it?

I find this the right opportunity to ask what that woman is eating so eagerly. Is that pizza ?

Cheers
Ruben
 
Looks like strawberries to me Ruben... BTW where are your GAllery picks for the week? I always enjoy reading your critique.
 
ruben said:
I find this the right opportunity to ask what that woman is eating so eagerly. Is that pizza ?

Cheers
Ruben

THANK YOU!

I have been wondering the same thing (who she is, what she is eating, and the circumstances under which our esteemed sitemistic came to photograph her).

And just to take the thread even more off-topic-- Whereas sitemistic previously used an image of a hirsute civil war reenacter as an avatar, often mistaken to be sitemistic himself, he now uses an image of this woman dining. And I would speculate he's not been assumed to be the woman in his avatar image even once.

(Now taking the discussion slightly more toward the original topic)....because everyone assumes this forum caters to photo geeks of the masculine persuasion.

And if there were more women represented here, the atmosphere might be very different, with respect to nudity, and testosterone-fuelled argument.

In any case, Ruben, thanks for your comments.
 
They're on my website anyway

1. Oh that was a whiskey sour, not pee. Well not pee yet.

2. Nobody raped her or drugged her, she was naked though.

I guess you could imagine that she was raped, drugged, and that she urinated. But I could imagine those things about just about anyone else too.

I never PM'd anyone else about this, I don't even know who the mods are, I just took the pix down to be polite first and foremost, then I just wanted to ask what the rules were. I probably won't post anything else here anyway, I'm not looking for a fight, I was just curious where you all stood.
 
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Hi Pitxu,

Rules are by nature very difficult to apply and follow because there is allways the issue of the circumstances and overall understanding of the facts. Do you accept French Law about Basque Land ?

The legalistic point of view is the less important for me. Common sense and friendship are more important in this specific case, by far.

Upon following you at RFF, I am sure you didn't PMed Frank out of a legalistic point of view, nor even out of your personal taste, but out of your overall concern about the wellfare of RFF.

You acted OK, no need for law umbrella, nor it will secure you from our symphatetic "lyons".

Cheers,
Ruben
 
Pitxu said:
Welcome back Frank,
Perhaps you would like to show the good folks the photos in question as some seem to have missed them.


Pitxu.


Hi Pitxu again,

This style of writing sounds to me a bit flowing from a bitter thread than from your nice spirit.

Frank was not out, nor his pics are on public trial, nor you have to prove you acted ok. I already gave you my aproval. Do you need more folks to give theirs? 🙂

Relax Pitxu, this is not a big issue.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
There's no need for any of us to message any person about anything we think is inappropriate. Under each photo in the Gallery is a 'Report Photo' link.

Similarly, in each post, such as this, there is a yellow triangle at lower left which, when clicked, reports the post if you feel it needs reporting.

As I understand it these actions both send a heads up to all four moderators simultaneously for any of them to intervene if necessary.

Personally I itch to click on the yellow triangle on any post to do with straps or bags.

At my new place of work we have many many female photographers, our demographic is completely different from RFF, and so far as I've seen in the first week no problems whatsoever with dodgy photos. And none of them want to discuss straps and bags!
 
Hi Frank Petronio,

It is obvious to me you are not looking for a fight. After all you did remove the pics, which I assume it was not easy for you.

Now, look for friendship here, actively, and you will find another source of inspiration that may help you in your creative activities.

Cheers,
Ruben
 
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