GAS and Buddhism

bmattock said:
I enjoy it? I am having trouble experiencing feelings of guilt for enjoying my life.
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That will be a great comfort to my son's generation when they are dealing with the consequences of your enjoyment today.

Regards,

Bill
 
noimmunity said:
And if it’s impossible to use old institutions for anything but intellectual exclusion and self-fetishization, then it’s time to start up new ones, where there’s some room to think among the debris of the future.
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This worked really well in the last century, didn't it. :p

/T
 
I find it amusing to think that we humans think we can destroy the planet. True, we may take ourselves out of the picture, but at some point the planet will remove a lot of the evidence that we were ever here, and start over again.

Until then, I'm going to live my life as I see fit. No guilt. If you feel guilty, modify your own life.
 
Al Patterson said:
I find it amusing to think that we humans think we can destroy the planet. True, we may take ourselves out of the picture, but at some point the planet will remove a lot of the evidence that we were ever here, and start over again.
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Very true, the Green Man is one powerful entity.
 
bmattock said:
Very groovy, Al. After all, we're long past due for another extinction event in the form of a meteor or comet doing the horizontal bop with old Gaia. Anything could happen, but we might also live happily ever after. And wouldn't that make some folks steamed?
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Sure, and maybe that steam can hold off the next Ice Age...

;)
 
Pitxu said:
This planet WILL be better off once WE have gone, but Should we sit in our own filth while waiting for the end?
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I'm not sitting in filth either. It is true we have a way to go, but the rivers and air are much cleaner in large parts of the USA now than they were 30 years ago. And I hope that trend continues.
 
bmattock said:
Works for me, but frankly, I'm hoping some of that Global Warming gets going pretty soon. Land is cheap up north, and it will become the new temperate zone if we melt those polar ice caps and flood the coasts. Hey, I say Global Warming: It's about time!
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Well, if the southern part of New Jersey were to flood, my house in North Wilmington could end up as beachfront property...
 
bmattock said:
Works for me, but frankly, I'm hoping some of that Global Warming gets going pretty soon. Land is cheap up north, and it will become the new temperate zone if we melt those polar ice caps and flood the coasts. Hey, I say Global Warming: It's about time!
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The family has got a few acres just north of Hearst Ontario that might interest you Bill.
Lots of good hunting and fishing up there in G_d's country.
 
bmattock said:
I'm thinking U.P., myself. Nothing against Canada, you know, but I likes me them Stars and Stripes.
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Oh I understand, remember, we always gave refuge to our American cousins,Eg: if they ever wanted to avoid serving in an unpopular war, or not spend seven years in the gaol for enjoying a marihuana cigarillo.
 
bmattock said:
You can have those guys. I served and proud of it, and have managed to keep my mind-altering substances limited to the adult beverages. Everybody makes choices, mine was loyalty to the country where I was born and have thrived. Everybody else's country is cool, no problems - I just like mine and want to stay, is all.
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Yep
Those guys are ok too.
it was the right choice they made for themselves.
Like it was the right choice for those that served and still serve their country.
http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/vietnam_war/topics/348/
 
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bmattock said:
I don't have any problem with those who went to Canada, save one - I don't think they should have been let back in again. Choices. They made theirs, and good on 'em. Hope they have long and happy lives. But stay gone. I really disliked the amnesty. Please understand - not personal. I would have a beer with any of those guys - in Canada.
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I understand Bill, someone who served their country would find it hard to accept the ones who fled north, then returned back home years later.

Ah, but if one has a daddy that can help one avoid that stigma to a certain degree, things will go ok.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyFdZqWDn3c
 
bmattock said:
Don't make presumptions like that, please. I'm not a fan of the current US president. My objection to draft dodgers who fled and then returned under the provisions of amnesty remain clean - I do not make excuses for fortunate sons, they have as little of my respect as I can manage.
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GWB is certainly no Ike, but these things will always happen.
 
Your view of the big picture may be different Bill, if you had children. Having children makes one less selfish and more thoughtful of the future. Parents and grandparents naturally have a greater investment in the future.
Time for bed.
 
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bmattock said:
Yes, the 'greater evil' argument. Sorry, that's a logical bugaboo - it doesn't fly.

To me, that's akin to saying let's forgive all the muggers, there are rapists out there. No. Muggers are bad too. I forgive - I am not angry - but I believe in my heart that those who chose to leave should have stayed gone. They made a choice and turned their backs on our nation, and there is a price for that.
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Alot of the Indochina war evaders did alright with their lives up here in Canada and are Canadian citizens now.
BC has more of them than Ontario.
It is more of a laid back crowd on the west coast.
 
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