Gave up on the X-Pro 2...

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The best combo ...ever! :D
 
I'd like to give up on mine... so I can switch it out with another XT-2 but I don't see that happening anytime soon, so I'll stick with it for now. I like it as a camera but two bodies that are the same is better for me.
 
I feel like we are expecting things from small format digitals that we used to only expect from medium and large format film. The only few 35mm cameras I've seen that deal with this well are those full frame cameras that have eschewed anti-aliasing filters - and they have other issues.

An inherently flawed comparison.
 
rogue_designer said:
I feel like we are expecting things from small format digitals that we used to only expect from medium and large format film. The only few 35mm cameras I've seen that deal with this well are those full frame cameras that have eschewed anti-aliasing filters - and they have other issues.

An inherently flawed comparison.
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Oh I didn't compare the 2... but I'll take my Ricoh GR over the Fuji for one reason the sensor... If they put the Ricoh sensor in the Fuji X-Pro 2... You better believe I would still have that camera... Just my opinion... I think the Sony is great, not perfect certainly... Love the image quality at times reminds me of Medium Format at times... Chooses are good.
 
quirks and all, i still love the fujis best!
i'm sitting here with 2 xe3 bodies right in front of me...one has the 18 on it, the other the 60 sorta macro...perhaps a strange combo but i like it.
 
thinking of picking up a xpro 1 and a 35mm 1.4, still have my m9 but fancied trying an xpro 1, but the started looking at a secondhand xpro 2?
How do people who have gone from the 1 to the 2 feel and how do you think they compare to m9.
cheers.
 
I have the 1 and 2. The 1 was good for its time, but the 2 has better ergonomics and button placement. I still can't get myself to sell the 1 though. I got it for a good deal and though I often think of selling it paired with the 35mm 1.4 I don't end up doing it.
 
Fraser said:
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How do people who have gone from the 1 to the 2 feel and how do you think they compare to m9.
cheers.
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The X-Pro 2 is better than the X-Pro 1 in every way. The AF/MF is faster, more versatile and has a higher success rate. However, to get the most out of the X-Pro 2 one has to use newer XF lenses (I use primes) because their AF motor technology is quick as well. Keep in mind, the X-Pro 2 has a built-in diopter adjustment while the X-Pro 1 requires a Cosina-stlye screw-in dipoter.

The X-Pro 2 raw file quality is better as well. This makes a difference in bright light (dynamic range), low light (S/N) and shadow regions. Whether or not the level of improvement is worth the price difference is entirely subjective. I don't use JPEGs, so I can't compare those.

I have no idea how they compare to the M9. These cameras have very little in common.

I don't use adapted M or LTM lenses either.

I can tell you both my X-Pro 1 and X-Pro 2 are set up so I can use them as I used my Zeiss Ikon M film RF.

Both Fujifilm cameras offer numerous automation options and modes. It does take a while to figure out how to use the X-Pro bodies in an minimalistic, manual mode. For instance, the OVF display can be stripped down to display a bare minimum of informational, but it will take a while to figure how to do so. I find the X-Pro 2 OVF electronic rangefinder mode satisfying to use. Even fly-by-wire MF is finally practical with newer XF lenses. Obviously the experience is only similar to an optic-mechanical RF. I would never claim it is superior. But it makes me happy. While the X-Pro 2 OVF frame line estimates are better than the X-Pro 1's, I assume the M9's will be better.
 
I use X-Pro1's. I'm not a technology geek, I just take pictures for pleasure. For the type of photography I do, the improvements in the X-Pro2 were not enough to justify the cost increase. For the price of one XP2, I bought 3 mint condition XP1's and dedicated each to a different Fuji prime lens. I do envy the XP2's adjustable diopter correction. The EVFs in my XP1's are virtually useless to me due to my quirky vision limitations.

Now I have to say I never shoot sports or other types of moving action and I don't try to shoot pictures of black felines lurking in coal bins under total darkness with any expectation of success. I shoot only Raw for (most of the time) conversion to B&W files for printing up to 12x18 inches, frequently with cropping--sometimes significant cropping. I never use manual focus. I only use the center AF sensor. Using more recent Fuji lenses--like the "Fujicrons"--with current body firmware updates, AF is pretty fast, quite sensitive and extremely accurate. I'm sure the XP2 improves on this but, again, at a significantly higher cost.
 
I too have a few Fuji cams...the x-trans ones. And a stable of lenses.
But I agree with the OP. There is an issue with the x-trans, when it comes to foliage, intricate details.

The issue is intermittent. So much so, that I have started carrying 2 different camera systems. With the Fuji Xs, I am satisfied to do most anything..except!

I recently took my Fuji XPRO-2 while on vacation to SE Asia. To test its performance in tropical dense foliage. Mountains, fields and valleys covered with foliage.

I was disappointed with the results. I have used most raw converters on the market. But there is definitely the mushy, watery, painterly, wormy effect appearing in a high percentage of images.

For cityscapes, landscapes with just a splattering of foliage, seascapes, documentary....environmental images and portraiture...it is a wonderful system.

Look through examples made...most, as in the link provided in this thread pose no problem.

Do a dense forest standing on top of a valley and mountains with foliage on the other side....I would trust my other cam system.

Sad...coz I really like the XPRO-2 and the XT-1.

Of course, it could all be due to my inadequacies as a photog.
 
My poor X-Pro2 ... :( I love it... most likely my favorite camera ever (and I´ve owned many cameras both film and digital). I´m glad Fuji makes it.
 
Fraser said:
thinking of picking up a xpro 1 and a 35mm 1.4, still have my m9 but fancied trying an xpro 1, but the started looking at a secondhand xpro 2?
How do people who have gone from the 1 to the 2 feel and how do you think they compare to m9.
cheers.
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Can't compare to the M9 but I have just sold my XP2 and got another XP1. I tried to like the XP2 (and there is a lot to like) but, to my eyes, the IQ is not as good as the XP1 particularly with images that involve faces. I've seen too much waxy skin that is much less prevalent with the XP1.
 
I think I would like an X-Pro2...but the price, and the hybrid viewfinder put me off. Also the ISO dial, which is kinda fiddly...I prefer programing it to the rear dial...one quick press and all three auto modes with minimum shutter are quickly available, like with the X-E3. I got both the X-E3 and the X-E2s (recent holiday sale) new for less than the X-Pro2.
 
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Gid said:
Can't compare to the M9 but I have just sold my XP2 and got another XP1. I tried to like the XP2 (and there is a lot to like) but, to my eyes, the IQ is not as good as the XP1 particularly with images that involve faces. I've seen too much waxy skin that is much less prevalent with the XP1.
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I bought one used from the A store and found it quite a bit noisier than my XP1. Even broad daylight skies were noisy. I sent it back. Later I got the X-e3 which should be all the same internals and is wonderful. Go figure.
 
The issue I have faced is intermittent ' swirly, wormy, smudged' effects in foliage details.
Specially, when there is low contrast and if tree tops ( e.g ) are lying below.

The infuriating part is that it does not happen in every case.
But enough to give one to pause and wonder if the image shall display the ' effect '. This feeling detracts from using it.

It could also be paranoia..and that I have been sensitized and am looking for such effects!!

In other situations, that I have used it, it has performed without issue. Rather wonderfully, actually.

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