newspaperguy
Well-known
Read this quote from Kirk Tuck's blog, about posting pix on the web:
"Please imagine that the work you are about to post could change lives, change minds,
enliven culture and move our society forward in its understanding and compassion.
Don't post random crap just to post it."
Rick - Who is pleading GUILTY.
But I promise to do better... or at least to try.
"Please imagine that the work you are about to post could change lives, change minds,
enliven culture and move our society forward in its understanding and compassion.
Don't post random crap just to post it."
Rick - Who is pleading GUILTY.
But I promise to do better... or at least to try.
Alowisney
Established
I'm quite guilty of that myself. I've gotten a lot more self critical lately and it's made me stop and think before I post any image, so I'm getting better!
I can't agree that this is the only way in which photos operate. People photograph for many different reasons and there are many different agendas in which photos are used for...
I can agree with this ...
Pfreddee
Well-known
Cat photos are random. Cats are random, too. I live with two.
With best regards.
Pfreddee(Stephen)
With best regards.
Pfreddee(Stephen)
it'sawhat?
Established
Dan, I'm positive most cat photo's would show up on noctilux threads.
stompyq
Well-known
Really? Always thought mine was plotting world domination
Paul Luscher
Well-known
I think Mr. Tuck is taking himself, and photography, a little too seriously. There are, as said above ,many good reasons for taking a photo. Someone once said that one of the problems we Americans have is that we think all art has to be about Moral Betterment...guess it's some residual messianism left over from that fun-loving bunch, the Puritans. And explains why a lot of American art is grim finger-wagging stuff.
I got into photography because I enjoyed doing it. I don't see why I'm supposed to make it into a grim crusade for the moral improvement of the world. If anything I do has that effect on people, well and good (I do try not to post "random crap". But what I think is good may be "random crap" to someone else.). But I'm only a photographer, not a moral crusader.
I got into photography because I enjoyed doing it. I don't see why I'm supposed to make it into a grim crusade for the moral improvement of the world. If anything I do has that effect on people, well and good (I do try not to post "random crap". But what I think is good may be "random crap" to someone else.). But I'm only a photographer, not a moral crusader.
Mackinaw
Think Different
I haven't posted a pic to the RFF gallery since Halloween. If a pic isn't good, or at least different, I'm not going to post it.
Jim B.
Jim B.
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Nikon Bob
Guest
Way too serious an outlook on photography for all but hard core PJ types. I agree with previous posters that there are many valid reasons to do photography. Photography is not only about changing the world. If what your idea of random crap is bothers you to look at....don't. OTH someone else may enjoy looking at it.
Bob
Bob
mdarnton
Well-known
I came here to start another thread, but this one was at the top, and I think piggybacking on it is relevant. >
re: posting "random crap", as Paul Luscher has just mentioned: I just spent a little bit of time flipping through yet another RFF member's Flickr page. I do that quite often, sometimes to see where someone comes from relative to a comment they made, and sometimes just because I see a link in their signature and want to learn about who's at the party.
I think of my Flickr page as sort of a casual portfolio, and work my way through it regularly making things private or exposing them, to tune what people see (which, of course, doesn't subtract at all from what I see), but I see that perhaps a majority of RFF members' pages are virtual shoeboxes. They often have thousands of images, most of them bad, sometimes [what appears to be] everything from, for instance, a street shoot, unedited--so many that they can't even give them titles, just file numbers. I can cruise for pages before picking one that I would want people to see--not a great shot, just not crap. It's like being given a box of someone's proof sheets when the only conclusion one could draw from them is "Wow, this guy is totally incompetent!"
What's that about, anyway? It's easy enough to make shots private, and show only things that are good. People provide links, which makes me think they want me to go see their pictures, so the excuse that it's just a fun, private collection doesn't wash: by giving the link they're actively promoting the idea of people going to check out their work. The "take it or leave it" idea that Nikon Bob just put forward doesn't even begin to deal with the question of why someone would WANT to stand up holding a sign that says "LOOK AT ME!" and look totally inept in public.
One thing I have learned is that if I see more than three photos of camera equipment sitting on a table, it's time to move on to another person. I think I'd better stop now. . .
re: posting "random crap", as Paul Luscher has just mentioned: I just spent a little bit of time flipping through yet another RFF member's Flickr page. I do that quite often, sometimes to see where someone comes from relative to a comment they made, and sometimes just because I see a link in their signature and want to learn about who's at the party.
I think of my Flickr page as sort of a casual portfolio, and work my way through it regularly making things private or exposing them, to tune what people see (which, of course, doesn't subtract at all from what I see), but I see that perhaps a majority of RFF members' pages are virtual shoeboxes. They often have thousands of images, most of them bad, sometimes [what appears to be] everything from, for instance, a street shoot, unedited--so many that they can't even give them titles, just file numbers. I can cruise for pages before picking one that I would want people to see--not a great shot, just not crap. It's like being given a box of someone's proof sheets when the only conclusion one could draw from them is "Wow, this guy is totally incompetent!"
What's that about, anyway? It's easy enough to make shots private, and show only things that are good. People provide links, which makes me think they want me to go see their pictures, so the excuse that it's just a fun, private collection doesn't wash: by giving the link they're actively promoting the idea of people going to check out their work. The "take it or leave it" idea that Nikon Bob just put forward doesn't even begin to deal with the question of why someone would WANT to stand up holding a sign that says "LOOK AT ME!" and look totally inept in public.
One thing I have learned is that if I see more than three photos of camera equipment sitting on a table, it's time to move on to another person. I think I'd better stop now. . .
Out to Lunch
Ventor
Just one more moralist from across the great pond.
haempe
Well-known
No one understands irony anymore?
It's a bitter joke, but a good one...
All good points...
Teuthida
Well-known
Seriously. Talk about narcissism. The world does not give a s...t about your photography, good or bad.
PatrickCheung
Well-known
On the "virtual shoe box" comment: I really think it depends on what you use your Flickr account for. If its a portfolio to show future clients your skill then yes, you're right, it should be refined to just your best work. But what if you use it as... more or less, a virtual shoe box, a place to store memories and moments in your daily life? Does it matter that someone thinks your memories are sub-par photographically? A lot of my photostream isn't quality work, but its there to provide a window into my life, for you to, as you said, "see where someone comes from", not in the sense of photographic skill, but in the sense of capturing who I really am, what my life is like.
If I were to put together a portfolio to find work, then I WOULD take the time to refine my photostream, but that's not what my photostream is for... yet.
If I were to put together a portfolio to find work, then I WOULD take the time to refine my photostream, but that's not what my photostream is for... yet.
mdarnton
Well-known
Sure we do. Take the comment directly above yours, for instance.
mdarnton
Well-known
More irony, since most of your stream IS quality work.
micromontenegro
Well-known
"Don't post random crap just to post it."
What if I want to? Talk about being a busybody.
What if I want to? Talk about being a busybody.
back alley
IMAGES
randon crap...now that is an interesting concept of and by itself.
i do admit to producing both random and intentional crap at times but i delete it once i have recognized it, after posting it.
and what about people who have made careers of making random crap...where will they go?
i do admit to producing both random and intentional crap at times but i delete it once i have recognized it, after posting it.
and what about people who have made careers of making random crap...where will they go?
GraflexLefty
Member
Can I use your quote "randon crap...now that is an interesting concept of and by itself." in my siq, it's priceless...