Goyaesqe or Out of Focus?

In his era Goya was indeed considered “impressionistic” a lot of critics thought his work poorly finished, with some justification. In places it’s possible to see the canvas showing through a thin layer of paint or completely blank ground between brushstrokes, yet at a proper viewing distance they resolve into great paintings, a bit like photos really, technically perfect isn’t always best
 
Sparrow said:
In his era Goya was indeed considered “impressionistic” a lot of critics thought his work poorly finished, with some justification. In places it’s possible to see the canvas showing through a thin layer of paint or completely blank ground between brushstrokes, yet at a proper viewing distance they resolve into great paintings, a bit like photos really, technically perfect isn’t always best

If I remember correctly he used his F/1 brush to achieve those effects. :)

/T
 
Tuolumne said:
If I remember correctly he used his F/1 brush to achieve those effects. :)

/T
If you get up close you can see where he used his thumb, now that’s what I call a fingerprint…….and a distinctive signature to boot

:D
 
ClaremontPhoto said:
Saturn Devouring His Son is sharp, it's just that it's a painting.

I agree that Goyaesque is an odd term for out of focus. Monetesque might be better. Mabe the Dali Lama needs some art education?

It was Geer, not the DL who called the out of focus photos Goyaesque.
 
ClaremontPhoto said:
Goya was a painter about two hundred years ago.

He has nothing whatsoever to do with the photograph of the man being shot.

Robert Capa's 'Falling Soldier' of 1936.


I think the comment referred to Goya's painting The Third of May, which depicts a man being shot. Much more clearly than the Capa photo does, actually. Perhaps Gere is really Capaesque.
 
dazedgonebye said:
Well, I know he's the Dali and all...but don't you think wonder if he doesn't take a break from teaching now and again and just express an opinion?
If not, he wouldn't be much fun to be around.

I hear the Dalai (see the second letter A in their? :) ) Lama is quite a jolly and funny guy.

Dali was a designer and architect.

BTW, I once had the privilege to wait for the Dalai Lama pass by in his car. In 2006 he visited Mongolia, without prior knowledge of China (which caused quite a stir when he showed up in UB). One day I was in the bus on my way to I-don't-remember-what when we were stopped by police. A column of cars passed by, one with the Dalai Lama's flags fluttering from the bumper. That's as close I ever got to the Dalai Lama, though things could have been different. He spent a week or so in Mongolia, exactly the week that I spent 600 km away in a resort in the west of Mongolia. We were hoping the DL would visit the Erdene Zuu temple complex at Khar Khorin (Karakorum), only some 300 km away from where we were, but he didn't. If he had, we would have been just around the corner :) , and it would have been quite easy to see and approach him. It's one of my wishes to once in my lifetime meet him in person. My mom did already; she was even present at one of the closed session meetings with students of Buddhism. My mother-in-law is Mongolian and she respectfully greets every image of the DL. :)
 
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dazedgonebye said:
Well, I know he's the Dali and all...but don't you think wonder if he doesn't take a break from teaching now and again and just express an opinion?
If not, he wouldn't be much fun to be around.

I personally think the Dalai Lama is a swell guy. But that doesn't mean he's an expert on photography.
 
dexdog said:
The first thing that I think of Goya would be the dramatic use of highlight. The glowing shirt of the man being shot is the classic example

This makes perfect sense after seeing 'The Third of May. Nothing to do with Capa's photo.
 
ClaremontPhoto said:
Monet on the other hand... Way off focus and I wouldn't pay good money for one of them.
"Way off focus"??? wth? It's like declaring soup "way not solid", unlike potato chips.
 
Cool! I found a very sharp painting:

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Out of focus, I'm afraid.


Anyway...I took a look at Gere's photos, and not shabby at all. Much better than many I've seen from anyone who is quicker at criticizing a photo than to take a good one themselves.

And Buddhism teaches us to let go of our worldly possessions. An image of selective focus lets go of the worldly "sharp" possession of reality.

Peace.
 
For the first, Gere's pics are not good from art perspective. Really unispiring but it is no wonder that he didn't got time to commit into photography seriously. Just another famous person who happens to take some shots and doing advertising for a good purpose anyway :) I think that Dalai did mean that one has to make effort for shooting. If it is correct, he did carry Leica Minilux, huh? What a joke! It reminds me of that Holywoodishness. The pain would be paid better off if one carried Leica M with a collapsible lens or why not Noctilux :D Goyaesque? A load of bull**** and it is not paint here but only silver emulsions. It isn't about only technique either. I believe that through pain, sweat, blood one gets good shoots.
 
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