markrich
Enthusiatic amatuer
What is the best C41 film, monochrome and colour, that provides a nice grainy finish?
edge100
Well-known
Push Portra 400 or XP2 by 3 stops. Grain city.
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
How much contrast do you gain pushing Portra this way ?
Fotohuis
Well-known
Fomapan 400 E.I.800 in Rodinal 1+25 at 24C and continuous agitation.
edge100
Well-known
"C41"?????
edge100
Well-known
At +2 stops, Portra holds up very nicely with only a slight build up in contrast and grain. Medium format, in particular, looks very nice at EI 1600, while 35mm is reaching its useful limit.
+3 stops is, IMHO, a bridge too far for 35mm; just too much grain and contrast to yield a decent print. Medium format is still ok in terms of grain, but of course the shadows do start to block up because you've really gotten everything you can from them.
NeeZee
Well-known
the fast fuji superias (800 and even more so 1600) have some nice grain.
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
that's pretty interesting. Do you develop colour yourself ? I couldn't imagine how much more would push processing cost at a lab
edge100
Well-known
Yes; I develop C41 and E6 colour myself.
thegman
Veteran
Kodak Gold?
B-9
Devin Bro
Thoroughly expired Kodak Gold gives some nice grain, along with the older expired Fuji X-tra Superia films. Pushing will exaggerate the grain for sure, and if your really looking for a bit of "gnarl" leave it on the radiator for a few days.
kingqueenknave
Well-known
Kodak Ektapress PJ800, it's truly, disgustingly grainy.
Fotohuis
Well-known
For C41: Superia 1600. Any C41 film pushed will cause less brilliant colors and a lack of details in the shadow.
Even when doing your own C41 development (add 1/2 minute to the regular 3:15 minutes development time), most C41 films are limited till a push +1 for reasonable quality.
Even when doing your own C41 development (add 1/2 minute to the regular 3:15 minutes development time), most C41 films are limited till a push +1 for reasonable quality.
thegman
Veteran
Cross processed slide film tends to be as grainy as hell, if you're not happy with the contrast (which will be very high), you could alter that in post processing if you wanted.
The below is, if I recall correctly, Agfa Precisa slide film, cross processed, and otherwise unchanged.
The below is, if I recall correctly, Agfa Precisa slide film, cross processed, and otherwise unchanged.
defconfunk
n00b
+1 for Fuji Superia 1600.
They no longer make it, but they do still make the 800. I have a few rolls of the 800 in my fridge, but haven't shot it yet.
They no longer make it, but they do still make the 800. I have a few rolls of the 800 in my fridge, but haven't shot it yet.
B-9
Devin Bro
Tmax P3200 in Dektol is what ide consider attractive grain.
Cross processed slides, love those colors G man.
Cross processed slides, love those colors G man.
Athiril
Established
Superia 800 @ 12800 with pre-flash and 6 minutes in C-41
