Guy or Gal?

[kiev4a]

Bill:

I think your analysis is probably a good one -- as far as how women view their photography gear (a means to an end) and their treatment on line. Very few women who try to participate in forums that I have been on last very long. No proof but I suspect they often get hit with more than "shop talk." It's a shame.

 

[thpook]

If you can wait 14 years, I'll make sure my daughter starts coming here after she gets my M2.

 

[Natalia]

Natalia,
I think the big problem is we are nerds, I do not mean that in a derrogatory sense. We are passionate about photgraphy and the equipment we use, due to that we can get obessive. I hate to say this, it is mostly a guy thing, most women photographers I know see their camera gear as just a tool and that is it. The other thing is years ago most women who ventured onto forums were hit on or harrassed which is wrong on so may levels. I would love a woman's perspective especially looking at my ever expanding portfolio which I will post sometime in my copious free time and when I can get a scanner.

Uncle Bill

Bill, good observations. Speaking for myself I am a geek as well, and a neatness freak (I never keep any icons except "Hard Drive" on my computer 🙂 )

Strangly enough, I've never been "hit on" online. I hope it continues to be a smooth ride .........

 

[dmr]

Strangly enough, I've never been "hit on" online. I hope it continues to be a smooth ride .........

Just wait, it will happen. Not if, but when. 🙂

Usually telling them "I'm old enough to be your mom" shuts them up. 🙂 🙂 🙂

 

[Kin Lau]

Strangly enough, I've never been "hit on" online. I hope it continues to be a smooth ride .........

Your old sig probably helped ... the one about shooting glocks 🙂.

 

[tamerlin]

I think the numbers in the photo club I joined are about even. I did meet one woman photographer
who uses an older Canon manual SLR and doesn't like it when she gets an autofocus setup in
her hands 🙂 She's also quite good, and a darkroom fan. I'm going to try to get her help in getting
started processing film sometime this summer 🙂

One of the students in my karate class is a woman who is also a photography fan, who uses a
Canon film camera, one of the Eos models.

I haven't seen very many rangefinder users around here, though, alas.

 

[Natalia]

Just wait, it will happen. Not if, but when. 🙂

Usually telling them "I'm old enough to be your mom" shuts them up. 🙂 🙂 🙂

will keep that in mind😉

 

[Natalia]

Your old sig probably helped ... the one about shooting glocks 🙂.

Kim, you remember that, heh?

 

[Little Prince]

I took a darkroom course. There were 3 males & 2 females. Not bad huh?

 

[Krasnaya_Zvezda]

Just wait, it will happen. Not if, but when. 🙂

Usually telling them "I'm old enough to be your mom" shuts them up. 🙂 🙂 🙂

I tried to shut some guys up in a chat room once, but I couldn't do it.
This happened to me years ago, early days of the 'net, for me anyway:
Remember, I'm a guy.
This was about 1992, I was on a service called US Videotel, IIRC. There were some chat rooms, they were supposed to be 'poker games' online, but they were really just chat rooms. I was a newbie, wanted to play some poker just for fun, late at night, knocking back a few... I couldn't figure out how the interface worked, it wasn't very intuitive. I asked for help from others in the room, but with the user name "T-Bolt" or whatever I was using, no one would respond. I signed off, and rejoined under the name "Japan Girl" and my oh my, what help was offered to me then. I swear, before the night was over, WITH NO ENCOURAGEMENT FROM ME, nonetheless I had two different guys profess their love for me, and one wanted to marry me. All I told them was I was a 22 year old half-Japanese girl who had grown up in Japan, and now I was a student in the US. No physical description (they supplied that for me: "I'll bet you're 5 feet tall, long straight black hair, right? About 100 lbs?" "No, not me, I'm not one of those tiny Asian beauties." "Bullsh$$t, I know you must be gorgeous...") I told them I was a nerd who liked classical music and chess. This happened to be the description of my girlfriend at the time, so I was not having to dream this stuff up as I went along. I felt like a baby at midnight surrounded by vampires! These guys were unrelenting in their insistence that we should meet, they could make me happy, etc. I told them all I wasn't interested in a relationship and I certainly had no desire to meet any of them, but it was like talking to brick. What an educational experience for me, seeing firsthand from the perspective of a woman. I've never been one of those pushy guys, thank God, and I certainly empathize with any females who have been similarly 'molested' on the web.

 

[Natalia]

I tried to shut some guys up in a chat room once, but I couldn't do it.
This happened to me years ago, early days of the 'net, for me anyway:
Remember, I'm a guy.
This was about 1992, I was on a service called US Videotel, IIRC. There were some chat rooms, they were supposed to be 'poker games' online, but they were really just chat rooms. I was a newbie, wanted to play some poker just for fun, late at night, knocking back a few... I couldn't figure out how the interface worked, it wasn't very intuitive. I asked for help from others in the room, but with the user name "T-Bolt" or whatever I was using, no one would respond. I signed off, and rejoined under the name "Japan Girl" and my oh my, what help was offered to me then. I swear, before the night was over, WITH NO ENCOURAGEMENT FROM ME, nonetheless I had two different guys profess their love for me, and one wanted to marry me. All I told them was I was a 22 year old half-Japanese girl who had grown up in Japan, and now I was a student in the US. No physical description (they supplied that for me: "I'll bet you're 5 feet tall, long straight black hair, right? About 100 lbs?" "No, not me, I'm not one of those tiny Asian beauties." "Bullsh$$t, I know you must be gorgeous...") I told them I was a nerd who liked classical music and chess. This happened to be the description of my girlfriend at the time, so I was not having to dream this stuff up as I went along. I felt like a baby at midnight surrounded by vampires! These guys were unrelenting in their insistence that we should meet, they could make me happy, etc. I told them all I wasn't interested in a relationship and I certainly had no desire to meet any of them, but it was like talking to brick. What an educational experience for me, seeing firsthand from the perspective of a woman. I've never been one of those pushy guys, thank God, and I certainly empathize with any females who have been similarly 'molested' on the web.

🙂))))))) that's quite a story. Love your sig, by the way, although I hate that stuff. Champaigne is more for me!

 

[titrisol]

the ratio is 32/1 so far ... not bad!

 

[dmr]

I've never been one of those pushy guys, thank God, and I certainly empathize with any females who have been similarly 'molested' on the web.

Not to go into detail, but at times I was into both IRC (chat) and Fidonet. Although most of the guys on both were perfect gentlemen, some of them would come on to you like a mack truck! It's much different than when it happens in real life, sure there's the distance of the net, but then you never really know who's behind the name at the other end of the connection.

On IRC they were called HNG's (horny net geeks) and they surely had a lot to learn about tact. 🙂

 

[Krasnaya_Zvezda]

...you never really know who's behind the name at the other end of the connection.

They sure didn't know in my case!

 

[tedwhite]

Natalia, I remember well the Glock bit, as I have one. We have two female police officers here, both are plainclothes detectives, both carry Glocks, both are very, very good shots. Thank God they've never had to use them.

 

[Natalia]

Natalia, I remember well the Glock bit, as I have one. We have two female police officers here, both are plainclothes detectives, both carry Glocks, both are very, very good shots. Thank God they've never had to use them.

Ted, I must agree that lots of women are good shots.....at least my hubby told me I was whenhe took me to the range to learn. I must admit I do not carry Glock on me, but a snubby S&W.

 

[Fedzilla_Bob]

Not to go into detail, but at times I was into both IRC (chat) and Fidonet. Although most of the guys on both were perfect gentlemen, some of them would come on to you like a mack truck! It's much different than when it happens in real life, sure there's the distance of the net, but then you never really know who's behind the name at the other end of the connection.

On IRC they were called HNG's (horny net geeks) and they surely had a lot to learn about tact. 🙂

I am a post IRC user, I am also partially responsible for merging ICQ's programming into AIM (I did some of the marketing reasearch that led to the business relationship formed with ICQ's Isreali owners). I met a ton of interesting people through IRC, including my wife.

One thing I discovered was that HNGs weren't exclusively male. However, I must admit that the guys were the absolute worst offenders. In number as well as in behavior.

 

[Fedzilla_Bob]

Oh, and many of the naughty ones were my age and older. Male and Female.

 

[tedwhite]

Snubby S&W's, Natalia, are designed specifically for just that: carry unobtrusively. "Glock" even sounds large.

What do you think of Gevorg's website in Kiev? (ARAX photo).

Ted

 

[solane]

i've been lurking in the forum for a few weeks but for my inaugural post, i've decided to post here. female gear geek whose roots were in manual SLR but moved to AF SLR, digital, DSLR and now, i'm back to film.

in the process of returning to film, i've gone a step further, to RF. right now, i just have fixed lens RFs but like all RF geeks, i dream of one day owning a leica. anyway, geek on.