partitura
Newbie
I've recently purchased a lovely GW690III and am shooting my first roll in it. Right now I'm metering with my digital camera, which seems a bit cumbersome. What I'd really like to do is spot meter and use the zone system, since I would like to shoot more velvia or provia on it. But lugging around a separate spot meter would also be cumbersome...
The Voigtlander VCII meter looks small and could attach to the shoe, but it has a 30 degree angle of view -- not exactly a spot meter!
What do you use for metering in this kind of situation?
The Voigtlander VCII meter looks small and could attach to the shoe, but it has a 30 degree angle of view -- not exactly a spot meter!
What do you use for metering in this kind of situation?
aizan
Veteran
but incident meters are better for shooting slides than any kind of reflective meter.
Prest_400
Multiformat
The GW690 can be a bit of a confusing machine. Handles like a just larger 35mm but the format would lend to a slower and methodical approach.
I initially had a Minolta IIIF with a 10º Spot, but didn't warm to it for the same reason you note. (I put it up on sale in a local classified but nothing). Later on I found a Sekonic 308 for quite a low price and grabbed it.
Very very nice rather compact incident meter. Its reflective mode may be 40º out of memory but I don't quite get the grip of where it points exactly.
The iPhone meter app is rather usable, but I didn't bother to test extensively, so far rather accurate. It accounts for a partial spot meter.
I initially had a Minolta IIIF with a 10º Spot, but didn't warm to it for the same reason you note. (I put it up on sale in a local classified but nothing). Later on I found a Sekonic 308 for quite a low price and grabbed it.
Very very nice rather compact incident meter. Its reflective mode may be 40º out of memory but I don't quite get the grip of where it points exactly.
The iPhone meter app is rather usable, but I didn't bother to test extensively, so far rather accurate. It accounts for a partial spot meter.
Huss
Veteran
I use the Voigtlander meter. It's the only option if you want a meter on the camera.
No issues. And if you need a spot reading, take one off the back of your hand in the same light.
I pretty much use Sunny F16 anyway, even with Velvia. Just gauge the scene. No issues.
The one thing about the GW690III is it's the only camera, that no matter how careful I am, occasionally fat rolls me. A serious bummer when you open the back and see that. And I've tried all the tricks to prevent this.
No issues. And if you need a spot reading, take one off the back of your hand in the same light.
I pretty much use Sunny F16 anyway, even with Velvia. Just gauge the scene. No issues.
The one thing about the GW690III is it's the only camera, that no matter how careful I am, occasionally fat rolls me. A serious bummer when you open the back and see that. And I've tried all the tricks to prevent this.
Spanik
Well-known
but incident meters are better for shooting slides than any kind of reflective meter.
I agree with that. Hardly use anything else than incident and more than 80% of what I use is slides. Spot only when I have no possibility to get into the same light or something like stained glass windows. I don't see the point in lugging around a 6x9 and put slide in it and then object that the lightmeter is a bit on the large side.
Chubberino
Well-known
Yeah the iPhone meter app I use works great as you can put in the film size and focal length and max aperture in a saved slot and it'll spot meter pretty well.
The fat spool is definitely and issue but I also run into this with my RF645 as well so I just hope for the best.
I think I may get the Voigtlander shoe meter though as I have a few cameras without a built in light meter so having the option to use it on multiple setups is intrguing
The fat spool is definitely and issue but I also run into this with my RF645 as well so I just hope for the best.
I think I may get the Voigtlander shoe meter though as I have a few cameras without a built in light meter so having the option to use it on multiple setups is intrguing
Kent
Finally at home...
With this one:
Or this one:
Or, more often, this one:
Or, even more often, that one:
But, to be honest, mostly with this one:

Or this one:

Or, more often, this one:

Or, even more often, that one:

But, to be honest, mostly with this one:

BLKRCAT
75% Film
Sekonic Flashmate L-308 for incident readings. If not I'll just use my eyes.
MadsJaeger
Member
I use either the VC meter on the 690 or the LS308 handheld. Both work fine
Bisakok
Established
Just use an app... I use the same one as Kent; works fine.
narsuitus
Well-known
What do you use for metering in this kind of situation?
I often use a Gossen Super Pilot incident/reflected light meter to determine the correct exposure for my medium format cameras that do not have built-in light meters.

Light Meters by Narsuitus, on Flickr
narsuitus
Well-known
Right now I'm metering with my digital camera, which seems a bit cumbersome.
For my medium format rangefinder cameras that do not have a built-in light meter, I sometimes use a compact digital camera to determine the correct exposure and to conduct test shots.

Film Rangefinder & Digital Compact by Narsuitus, on Flickr
Incident meters can be great for exposing transparency reliably and easily but whether they are best depends a bit on what you have to meter, where it is and whether you want to read across the whole light range of the image and how specifically.but incident meters are better for shooting slides than any kind of reflective meter.
Simple and obvious example: if you're visiting a zoo and standing at the fence of the lion enclosure in full sun, an incident meter will not be better than any kind of reflective meter for getting a good exposure reading of the cat lying in deep shadows on the far side of the enclosure. If you still think an incident meter is the best option in that scenario, then I'm inclined to think you're considerably faster and more agile than myself, and with a far better developed sense of self-preservation to boot.
Cheers,
Brett
HHPhoto
Well-known
With the few cameras without built-in light meter I have, I use a Gossen handheld meter:
http://www.gossen-photo.de/english/foto_p_digipro.php
I can highly recommend it. I get excellent results with it, with reversal/slide and negative film.
Cheers, Jan
http://www.gossen-photo.de/english/foto_p_digipro.php
I can highly recommend it. I get excellent results with it, with reversal/slide and negative film.
Cheers, Jan
waileong
Well-known
Why would you use a spot meter to shoot slides? Very inconvenient.
An incident meter is much preferred.
An incident meter is much preferred.
Spanik
Well-known
Why would you use a spot meter to shoot slides? Very inconvenient.
An incident meter is much preferred.
See the remark of Sacrophilus above. But otherwise, yes, incident it is.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
Incident meters can be great for exposing transparency reliably and easily but whether they are best depends a bit on what you have to meter, where it is and whether you want to read across the whole light range of the image and how specifically.
Simple and obvious example: if you're visiting a zoo and standing at the fence of the lion enclosure in full sun, an incident meter will not be better than any kind of reflective meter for getting a good exposure reading of the cat lying in deep shadows on the far side of the enclosure. If you still think an incident meter is the best option in that scenario, then I'm inclined to think you're considerably faster and more agile than myself, and with a far better developed sense of self-preservation to boot.
Cheers,
Brett
hehe.
An incident meter on a selfie-stick maybe?
partitura
Newbie
Thanks so much for everyone's suggestions. I'll be using this camera quite a bit for distant subjects when traveling, and I'm not sure about using an incident meter in those situations. I should experiment!
waileong
Well-known
See the remark of Sacrophilus above. But otherwise, yes, incident it is.
Find an equivalent shade to use the incident meter in.
Although I would personally not shoot slide film under such circumstances as there's no sunlight for gorgeous contrast.
See example below for light and shadow using 100F on GW690III
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7979829@N04/34326192381/in/dateposted-public/
waileong
Well-known
A very distant subject. But one has to assume the same light falls on it as it does on one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7979829@N04/33646858063/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7979829@N04/33646858063/in/dateposted-public/
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