Spider67
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Hi I tried to use my Moskva 4 as my Studio surrogate. Using it at minimum distance the parallax was fearsome.
Has anyone dvised a way of dealing with it.
Aleady thought of trying to guess the angle of the lens and using it's 35 equivalent on the FSU turret finder.
Your help is very appreciated.
Thanks
Des
Has anyone dvised a way of dealing with it.
Aleady thought of trying to guess the angle of the lens and using it's 35 equivalent on the FSU turret finder.
Your help is very appreciated.
Thanks
Des
oftheherd
Veteran
Well, I haven't tried what you have so I can't really help, but it sounds like you are on the right track. Did you mean you are using the 35mm lens portion of the turret finder? I would think the 50mm finder portion might be closer to what you want. Isn't that a 135mm lens, and you using it as a 6x9? Maybe I am wrong, but I think that is a normal lens for the 6x9, so the 50mm portion would be closer. Without the turret finder, or just to confirm, I guess you could also sight down the middle portions of the bellows for an approximation too.
ZorkiKat
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Des, the 110mm lens on the Moskwa-4 is about 45-50mm in the 24X36mm format. So the 50mm should work.
However, how and where will you mount the accessory finder on the Moskwa-4? I don't think that there's a shoe on it to mount it on- or is there?
I've two Moskwa-5. What I can say about the parallax issues of these cameras is based on these. The parallax in these cameras are not the same, one has a more accurate finder than the other. If this can happen within the same model type, then it's possible to find the same in the other variants. Have you seen the degree of framing error which your Moskwa-4 makes?
I too have used the Moskwa in the studio. Parallax doesn't seem to be a problem though, as long as I use 6x9. At 6X6, the VF masking never shows what the masked frame in the film gate takes. An example of a studio shot made with the Moskwa-5:
I think this was shot at minimum (1,5 m) distance or so.
However, how and where will you mount the accessory finder on the Moskwa-4? I don't think that there's a shoe on it to mount it on- or is there?
I've two Moskwa-5. What I can say about the parallax issues of these cameras is based on these. The parallax in these cameras are not the same, one has a more accurate finder than the other. If this can happen within the same model type, then it's possible to find the same in the other variants. Have you seen the degree of framing error which your Moskwa-4 makes?
I too have used the Moskwa in the studio. Parallax doesn't seem to be a problem though, as long as I use 6x9. At 6X6, the VF masking never shows what the masked frame in the film gate takes. An example of a studio shot made with the Moskwa-5:
I think this was shot at minimum (1,5 m) distance or so.
Muggins
Junk magnet
ZorkiKat,
I think (and am happy to be corrected if I'm wrong) that the Moskva-4 came in two major variations. The older ones had the pop-up viewfinder (mine is one of these), while the later ones had a flat top and an enclosed viewfinder like the Moskva-5. I'm assuming if someone is talking about using an accessory finder they are using one of the latter.
Adrian
I think (and am happy to be corrected if I'm wrong) that the Moskva-4 came in two major variations. The older ones had the pop-up viewfinder (mine is one of these), while the later ones had a flat top and an enclosed viewfinder like the Moskva-5. I'm assuming if someone is talking about using an accessory finder they are using one of the latter.
Adrian
ZorkiKat
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Adrian
That's exactly what I wanted to ask: if the Moskwa-4 in question is similar to the flat-top Moskwa-5, how will an external finder be attached to it? There is no accessory clip on top. If the flip-top Moskwa-4 is the same as the Moskwa-2, then there's (AFAIK), no where to place the accessory finder either.
I had been thinking before of a way to put a separate finder on my other Moskwa-5. One which will show a 2:3 "normal" view and another which shows a 2:2 square one. The built-in finder in this camera will not show the view properly.
That's exactly what I wanted to ask: if the Moskwa-4 in question is similar to the flat-top Moskwa-5, how will an external finder be attached to it? There is no accessory clip on top. If the flip-top Moskwa-4 is the same as the Moskwa-2, then there's (AFAIK), no where to place the accessory finder either.
I had been thinking before of a way to put a separate finder on my other Moskwa-5. One which will show a 2:3 "normal" view and another which shows a 2:2 square one. The built-in finder in this camera will not show the view properly.
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Spider67
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Thanks for the input!
Thanks for the input!
Luckily I found my old question again, as I nearly would have asked again what the 35mm equivalent to the 110mm would be. I have 2 Moskva 4's and one Moskva 5.
I first figured to make a wire frame that is at the same level as the front lens that could be seen through the flip top viewer and to have the parallax marked with an additional wire in the frame a solution I've seen with a 6x9 plate camera whose VF was a hole in a flip up metal piece and the wire frame was used to show the field of view.
I'll try to make a hotshoe for my 5 and use a Kontur VF which has prallax correction.
The parallax error was one fifth of the picture.
Great pic Jay! That Is just what I am aiming at. Is that flare in the upper left and right corner or a light leak?
Best regards
Des
Thanks for the input!
Luckily I found my old question again, as I nearly would have asked again what the 35mm equivalent to the 110mm would be. I have 2 Moskva 4's and one Moskva 5.
I first figured to make a wire frame that is at the same level as the front lens that could be seen through the flip top viewer and to have the parallax marked with an additional wire in the frame a solution I've seen with a 6x9 plate camera whose VF was a hole in a flip up metal piece and the wire frame was used to show the field of view.
I'll try to make a hotshoe for my 5 and use a Kontur VF which has prallax correction.
The parallax error was one fifth of the picture.
Great pic Jay! That Is just what I am aiming at. Is that flare in the upper left and right corner or a light leak?
Best regards
Des
mh2000
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just like Retinas and Barnack-style Leicas you just have to guess parallax correction lines in your VF... yes, at MFD it is fairly fierce... but manageable. I've learned to back up and shoot a little looser if the borders are critical... I mean you get enough negative on a 6x9 so you can crop a little bit.