armadsen
Established
I answered that one the same way. I’m a millennial, but I got my first camera at age 6 (a plastic 110 camera), and digital wasn’t a thing yet. My dad bought his first digital camera when I was 10 in 1994, but even then I could tell it took kind of terrible photos, and as a teenager I knew I wanted a “real” film camera. I’ve just never stopped shooting film…
raydm6
Yay! Cameras! 🙈🙉🙊┌( ಠ_ಠ)┘ [◉"]
Geesh, nothing for ULF shooters?
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Retro-Grouch
Veteran
Sadly, they are a niche within a niche. I suspect that ULF, or even LF, is such a minute percentage of the film market that it doesn't even register with the bean counters, even those at a film-friendly corporation such as Ilford/Harman.
Oren Grad
Well-known
Yes, it's a very, very small niche, but it absolutely registers with the leadership of Harman Technology, which does this each year:
Ultra Large Format and Custom Film Campaign 2024
They probably do this as much for the goodwill it generates as for the profit in it, though on the margin it does help them with turnover of the master rolls coated on polyester sheet film base while they're still fresh. But regardless, they still do it.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
Just because I'm one of the few who just fool around with film I did all they asked. They should know that even predominantly digital folks are some of their market.
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
Done...
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
Yeah, I wrote that down
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
They still make the annual run of the big stuff and honestly, I'm surprised they make enough money from it to continue. I hope buying the stuff I use (35/120/4x5) is enough to help support it.
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
Oh, and it a fit of "I know I won't get it but why not ask" I said they should make a Chromogenic PanF
Freakscene
Obscure member
With or without the orange mask? I ask seriously.Oh, and it a fit of "I know I won't get it but why not ask" I said they should make a Chromogenic PanF
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
To me it doesn't matter since I use it scanned and don't print to RA4.
Even though the XP2Super datasheet says you can shoot it at ISO50 it's meh and I'd like a slow film especially for my Rollei TLR's I can take to any C41 lab.
WoodallP
Pragmatist Barnack lover
I have never tried pushing or pulling it, I’m very conventional with C41. Have you tried 100? Any better than 50?
wlewisiii
Just another hotel clerk
200 & 800 work well for me. 100 was usable in a pinch but 50 was just too dense. The fun thing is you can do it all on the same roll and DON'T say anything to the lab. Process just like normal.
WoodallP
Pragmatist Barnack lover
Isn’t that just under and over exposing? I do that all the time 😊
armadsen
Established
Yeah, the idea is just that it has enough latitude that you can get good results (with appropriate scanning/printing) anywhere from 50-800 ISO. And being B&W, you're not worrying about color shifts or anything. For what it's worth, I usually just shoot mine at box speed. I'd love to see a true 100 ISO chromogenic B&W film too.
WoodallP
Pragmatist Barnack lover
On my first attempt at the survey I put a 100 ISO chromogenic alongside 127 XP2 and bulk improved Pheonix but I got distracted and had to start again, then forgot 😂
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
And while we're fantasizing, can we have that 100 ISO chromogenic in 120? Maybe even in LF?
WoodallP
Pragmatist Barnack lover
And bulk 135 as XP2 can occasionally be found. Might as well have it all.
Coldkennels
Barnack-toting Brit.
I bought a few hundred foot of bulk XP2 years ago. Still going through it from time-to-time.
Bulk C41 film is a bit of a weird proposition. I normally buy bulk film to use special cassettes for old cameras; no way am I taking those to a random lab to develop. As such, I actually dialled-in an XP2-in-Rodinal recipe to get through what I've got left. Not sure I'd bother with it again.
As for this...
Scanners are doing all the heavy lifting here. Doesn't matter what the film is and how good the latitude is, there's always going to be an optimum exposure "rating" for every film/developer/time combination. It's best to find the EI that gives you the results you want and stick to it.
MISH
Well-known
15 doesn’t even come close