seanbonner
Established
That the going rate of a used M9 on ebay is about a grand cheaper than a new ME? And arguably a better device?
dogberryjr
[Pithy phrase]
That warranty is a valuable thing.
Going rate is closer to $1500 less from what I can tell.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Since when are eBay prices rational?
When the benefit the buyer instead of the seller.
seanbonner
Established
Ration doesn't have anything to do with it, it's a good gauge what people are paying - rational or not.
Which makes it interesting that the "stripped down" version of a camera is $1500 more than the non-stripped version. I'm not in the market for one, but if I was, that would be massive consideration for me.
thegman
Veteran
For me, for a product worth that much, I'd want the warranty.
jippiejee
Well-known
But knowing that the M9 is still fully serviceable, what are the odds your possible repair will be more than that $1500 difference?
blue4130
Well-known
You are comparing a used camera to a new one? Seems like apples and oranges.
denizg7
Well-known
aka the price difference between a new m9 and a used one plus the digital aging.
willie_901
Veteran
If the market is fair (open, unmanipulated) then the market prices must be rational by definition. The market is also dynamic, so rationality is redefined on a regular basis.
So, how is eBay's M9 market irrational? Who or what is manipulating current prices such that they can not reflect the eBay buyers' and sellers' valuations? How are the manipulators subverting the supply and demand balance?
So, how is eBay's M9 market irrational? Who or what is manipulating current prices such that they can not reflect the eBay buyers' and sellers' valuations? How are the manipulators subverting the supply and demand balance?
Godfrey
somewhat colored
LOL ... tell my E-1 (built in October 2003) about this "digital aging" stuff. It still makes the same fine photographs it made when I acquired it at the beginning of 2008.
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denizg7
Well-known
I know! all i am saying is digital cameras get updated every 9 months unlike film cameras now days so the price has to go down..
in a couple a years there will be a new digital M and for the first time ever we will see the M8 go lower than a used M film camera
once i buy an m8 again it will be the only digital camera i will have for a very long time..
Rangefinderfreak
Well-known
"There are not many products that are so grossly overpriced than leica cameras, and yet so many people willing to pay the price for it if they had the money required readily available"
FrozenInTime
Well-known
No viable alternative if you want a rangefinder focusing full frame camera might just be a factor in the market price equation
Over about three years, I tried the alternatives and then grudgingly paid up.
FrozenInTime
Well-known
The price of used M7s and M8s is already close to parity; MPs get a premium over M8s.
seanbonner
Established
Not when they have the same specs.
seanbonner
Established
"digital aging" only applies when old tech is replaced by new tech. Such as the M9 having a way better sensor than the M8, etc. But look at the M9 and the ME specs, they are near identical and have the same sensor, etc so it's basically the same camera on many levels.
jaapv
RFF Sponsoring Member.
Hmmm... based on the assumption that buyers at an auction act rationally...
$4000 M9s seem rational to me.