Tuolumne
Veteran
I am not anti-intellectual. I AM an intellectual...But I thought this was a load of pretentious, precious, horse manure:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/artworld/2008/11/17/081117craw_artworld_schjeldahl
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http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/artworld/2008/11/17/081117craw_artworld_schjeldahl
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aizan
Veteran
i agree. the writing is obnoxious and doesn't really say anything insightful.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
William Eggleston, Peter Schjeldahl, they belong to the same world, in another universe, unapprehensible by laymen like us....
Carlsen Highway
Well-known
The fella that wrote that has his thesaurus too close to his keyboard I think. Some of it is so overblown it doesnt hardly read properly.
"synthetic gorgeousness iconizes pictures that flaunt the nonchalance of snapshots."
I know what he means, but you could use a couple of ten cent words that say it clearer...
"synthetic gorgeousness iconizes pictures that flaunt the nonchalance of snapshots."
I know what he means, but you could use a couple of ten cent words that say it clearer...
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nightfly
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I haven't read the review but I thought that's just par for the course for the New Yorker. I'm definitely in their demographic, liberal, "intellectual" New Yorker but I find a lot of the work in there, besides the investigative type of Seymour Hersh stories, pretty pretentious. And this is coming form someone who reads the New York Review of Books.
There was a great Family Guy where Brian gets a job at the New Yorker and he asks where the bathroom is and discovers that there are no toilets and when he inquires the person in charge says "This is the New Yorker we don't have anuses"
There was a great Family Guy where Brian gets a job at the New Yorker and he asks where the bathroom is and discovers that there are no toilets and when he inquires the person in charge says "This is the New Yorker we don't have anuses"
dave lackey
Veteran
I'm not even sure what an "intellectual" is...:angel:
I enjoyed reading the article because I know little of Eggleston. But, it did smack me in the face when I read about being born rich in Memphis with all the advantages.
Outside of that, and plowing through the language, I enjoyed the article.
Where is the manure?
I enjoyed reading the article because I know little of Eggleston. But, it did smack me in the face when I read about being born rich in Memphis with all the advantages.
Outside of that, and plowing through the language, I enjoyed the article.
Where is the manure?
simonSE15
Established
a ridiculous exercise is name-dropping. Nan Goldin, Catrier-Bresson, Roland Barthes. is there anyone who didnt get a metion?
peter_n
Veteran
I have a subscription but often tend to "speed-read" it. It can be a bit much sometimes I agree.
dave lackey
Veteran
I have a subscription but often tend to "speed-read" it. It can be a bit much sometimes I agree.
Ha! I don't have a subscription because I can speed-read that rag whilst at the dentist's office.
I dunno, why is it that some writers can't just write at the level of the "average" reader? Can you imagine reading a novel with the language used? My head hurt just from reading the single article.
But, I still can't find the manure....
david b
film shooter
My favorite sentence from the reviewer is:
"Synthetic gorgeousness iconizes pictures that flaunt the nonchalance of snapshots."
"Synthetic gorgeousness iconizes pictures that flaunt the nonchalance of snapshots."
david b
film shooter
BTW, Cartier Bresson was born rich as well. That's how he afforded the time to capture "the decisive moment".

M. Valdemar
Well-known
I go to the flea market a lot.
Sometimes I buy old photos and slides that I like.
If I found a box of Eggleston photos (and didn't know they were worth something), I would put them in the garbage.
Sometimes I buy old photos and slides that I like.
If I found a box of Eggleston photos (and didn't know they were worth something), I would put them in the garbage.
sooner
Well-known
I can't disagree about the pretentiousness of the New Yorker, but being a New Jersey transplant here in Oklahoma I kind of like it. After all, you wouldn't go to see the Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall and then complain that nobody walks like that. But as far as I'm concerned, the investigative pieces a la guys like Seymour Hirsch make the magazine invaluable.
M. Valdemar
Well-known
I've never worked a day in my life.
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wlewisiii
Guest
I haven't read the article and don't intend to - I can certainly imagine it easily enough. :bang: It's annoying how some people just have to go out of their way to wear their hat on their as*.
There's a review in a recent issue of the New York Times as well, but I've not read that one either as I've never been able to get anything from Eggleston's works. If one of you could give me a pointer to a good (online or printed) overview of his work, I would appreciate it.
William
There's a review in a recent issue of the New York Times as well, but I've not read that one either as I've never been able to get anything from Eggleston's works. If one of you could give me a pointer to a good (online or printed) overview of his work, I would appreciate it.
William
M. Valdemar
Well-known
I like dog photos. Anyone got any good dog photos? Or naked Japanese girls. I like those too.
M. Valdemar
Well-known
Well, then, why did Eggleston just take pictures of old junk in windows or busted tricycles?
If he's so smart where are his dog photos and Japanese girls?
If he's so smart where are his dog photos and Japanese girls?
M. Valdemar
Well-known
That's a Chinese dog. I can't understand what he's saying.
kevin m
Veteran
The New Yorker is perhaps the best general-interest publication in the English language. The fiction I usually give a miss, but the "Reporter at Large" series alone is worth the price of admission. And we haven't even mentioned the cartoons yet.
No one here would demand that a photographer print down to our level; why would anyone demand that a writer do the same?
No one here would demand that a photographer print down to our level; why would anyone demand that a writer do the same?
M. Valdemar
Well-known
After the mid-1960's the New Yorker cartoons went downhill.
Today, they are simply an embarrassment. Dreadful.
Today, they are simply an embarrassment. Dreadful.
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