Have you heard..? (rumors say...)

oscroft said:
What was that you were saying about people not citing their sources? :D
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Sighting the rumormill without sources or their reliability and saying "reliable sources say..." are two different things altogether.

I have gotten friends into trouble with Leica for posting internal ramblings on forums like this, so you'll have to forgive me about being careful about sighting my sources.

So I suppose you can take it for what it's worth...
 
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Olsen said:
....that Leica will launch a 40 mill. pixel - sort of medium format fixed lense digital camera next year..?
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Speaking of rumours, I've heard Cosina will begin selling a digital rangefinder $399.99 MSRP, with autofocus and 60 megapixels.
 
BillBlackwell said:
I have gotten friends into trouble with Leica or posting internal ramblings on forums like this, so you'll have to forgive me about being careful about sighting my sources...
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I would tell us your sources so we can send their names to Leica. Obviously they should be keeping their big mouths shut rather than trying to impress their friends. Leica will inform us about their product when they are ready.
 
Actually it makes a lot of sense for Leica to move into the 'cost-is-almost-no-object -highend' part of the market.

There is no way they can compete head to head with 5k bodies from Canona and Nikon that are backed by R&D budgets bigger than Leica itself.

But what they can do is position themselves between the Canon 1Ds Mk3 and something like the Hasselblad H3 series. Cutting edge technology, limited production runs, high prices.
 
makes me laugh...

Leica, going into the dSLR market ? And snap on with a IS , AF dSLR ? Where did they pulled that all of the sudden ?

dSLR market is , well at least to me, high volatile and the type of market that is "my-dslr-has-more-mp-than-yours-hence-its-better" ... Leica doesn't have the money to keep up with this game... Nikon and Canon are the big players, they come up with dSLRs every year, and replace their flagships every couple of years.

Since when Leica is doing that ? I must have missed something here...

Now a R10, with an adapter that can project R lens to a MF sized sensor, would make more sense... telephoto guy's will be pissed though... :)
 
endustry said:
Different rumor: Leica will announce a new dRF with a new sensor that resolves the IR issue in-camera at the next Photokina. No idea if it is just a "corrected" version of the M8 sensor, but I'd imagine so.
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I imagine (we are, after all, imagining here) those with current M8s would get their Gucci panties in a knot over a "corrected" version unless that aforementioned improvement could be retrofitted to their cameras. Now, that would be fun to read about in the forums. :rolleyes: :p
 
Gabriel M.A. said:
Speaking of rumours, I've heard Cosina will begin selling a digital rangefinder $399.99 MSRP, with autofocus and 60 megapixels.
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Yeah, but it does a terrible job of rendering murples.
 
proenca said:
makes me laugh...

Leica, going into the dSLR market ? And snap on with a IS , AF dSLR ? Where did they pulled that all of the sudden ?

dSLR market is , well at least to me, high volatile and the type of market that is "my-dslr-has-more-mp-than-yours-hence-its-better" ... Leica doesn't have the money to keep up with this game... Nikon and Canon are the big players, they come up with dSLRs every year, and replace their flagships every couple of years.

Since when Leica is doing that ? I must have missed something here...

Now a R10, with an adapter that can project R lens to a MF sized sensor, would make more sense... telephoto guy's will be pissed though... :)
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The way I see it is that FF-D-SLR is the only really profitable segment of the camera market. Canon combs home about 80% of the total profit of all the camera producers in the world. Even Nikon, half the size of Canon's camera division, making a profit less than a sixth of that of Canon's, see the obvious and have launched a FF alternative. Soon others will come. Like Sony. Leica has a natural place in this segment of the market.

Where shall Leica get the money from? From the profit of the FF-D-SLR sales.
 
i encountered an interview with steven lee a while back and he spent the greater part of the interview talking about dlsr's and autofocus ones to boot. i seem to recall him indicating that he was definately going to nudge leica in that direction.
now i don't wish to fan the flames of "rumour " so i wen ton a hunt for the interview to no avail... however i did encounter a few internet comments about the same interview.
"only things I found were interviews with Steve Lee talking about DSLRs
with AF and how they have to get away from removable digital back"
that comment was lifted from a leica users group conversation.
soooo... i would expect an auto focus dslr from leica in the future. i also know that mr lee apologized personally (quite a bit) in regards to the m8 hitting the market before it was ready (all the "kinks" ironed out) so i would expect leica will be VERY cautious about it's release date.
what would be REAL market suicide for leica? to release another camera before it's ready for the market... one mans take.
for the record i love the m8!
 
BillBlackwell said:
You don't have to worry... Leica reps read these forums.
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Then just post their names - that will save the trouble of sending them on. I hate snitches. You certainly would not want to hang out with folks who pass on company secrets so they can be big shots. Disgusting types who think thay know better than everyone working on a product. Pity they don't hang traitors anymore.
 
Olsen said:
... Leica will launch a 40 mill. pixel...?
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Can anyone make a 40-meg sensor, yet? Most companies buy, rather than build, the things. I'd be very surprised to learn that a small company like Leica had set up its own fabrication facility.
 
"Then just post their names - that will save the trouble of sending them on. I hate snitches. You certainly would not want to hang out with folks who pass on company secrets so they can be big shots. Disgusting types who think thay know better than everyone working on a product. Pity they don't hang traitors anymore."

wow... easy feller. this isn't craigslist...
 
Would be great if they focused on the type of thing they can do best.

At the moment they have:
1. a marginal, but legendary and bohemian rangefinder system,
and
2. a marginal SLR system.

The second one was never hip, nor a sales hit, throughout its existence. It is also in the market segment where Leica has to compete against the Asian giants, and frankly without any success for decades.

Maybe it would really be better if they pool resources to release a reliable, updated M8.2 or M9, a cheaper, entry level film M (they have that Copal shutter sorted out anyway), and invest in making production of new Summarits and other lenses just a little less costly.
 
patrickjames said:
The biggest one shot sensor that is not a secret is a 100 meg sensor that has been built for a telescope. There are satellites that resolve detail less than a centimeter, so you can figure out what is on those. Pretty scary.

Patrick
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And we complain about the M8's price...:eek:
 
It's probably true as Hassleblad is going to buy Leica....you heard it here first. Read the open letter from Hassleblad.
 
rpsawin said:
It's probably true as Hassleblad is going to buy Leica....you heard it here first. Read the open letter from Hassleblad.
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What 'open letter' from Hasselblad..?
 
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