GeneW
Veteran
I've always liked HC-110, but I hate the daft (for metric measures) dilution ratios. Awhile back I asked on pnet if anyone had reliable times for HC-110 diluted 1:50, not that far off from the 1:63 dil H. No replies to 1:50 but I received an good reply from a photographer who uses it 1:100. His recipe:
1:100, develop approx 3 times the time for Dil B, agitation 3 gentle inversions each 3 minutes.
A kind of modified, partial stand development. Given the dilution, I suspect you might always want at least 6 ml of stock HC-110 -- same as for using Rodinal at 1:100.
I tried it awhile back and liked the results. Today I developed two rolls of Neopan 400 using this recipe and the drying negatives look really good for scanning: thinnish, not overly contrasty, with good shadow detail. They would also make good negs for a condensor enlarger. Tomorrow I'll have some scans.
Anyone else tried this dilution?
Gene
1:100, develop approx 3 times the time for Dil B, agitation 3 gentle inversions each 3 minutes.
A kind of modified, partial stand development. Given the dilution, I suspect you might always want at least 6 ml of stock HC-110 -- same as for using Rodinal at 1:100.
I tried it awhile back and liked the results. Today I developed two rolls of Neopan 400 using this recipe and the drying negatives look really good for scanning: thinnish, not overly contrasty, with good shadow detail. They would also make good negs for a condensor enlarger. Tomorrow I'll have some scans.
Anyone else tried this dilution?
Gene
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Kin Lau
Guest
Didn't Ansel use it at 1:119? I'm fairly lazy when it comes to dev'ing (hence Diafine recently), so I know my measurements aren't always dead-on. My apt/condo is always 21C (not 20C) but I use the time for 20C. The difference isn't great, and while the purists will scream, it works for me.
mongo141
Established
GeneW said:
Hi, I have been using dil. H (?)( 2xB) 1+72 and twice the recommended dev. times as starting points, using two inversions per min. with good results since about the time the stuff came out. It doesn't seem very critical as long as it is done the same way each time. Dave
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Looking forward to seeing your results from your scans, Gene, and your opinion on the results versus other soups you like. My only hesitation with HC-110 is continued Kodak support of the product. Rodinal (or close to it) can be made at home, but I don't know that HC-110 has ever been nailed down.
Trius
Trius
GeneW
Veteran
I was torn between HC-110 and Rodinal for this session. I like them both. I think HC-110 has a lot of kick in the mid-tones, but Rodinal may be smoother in tonality, overall. Rodinal is slightly grainier, but with better looking grain, IMO. I'm experimenting on rolls that are not critically important -- stuff I shoot on my daily walks.Trius said:
I had initially sided a bit with HC-110 on hearing the news about Agfa, then I read the news about Kodak and, you're right, at least there are Rodinal clones around ...
Gene
GeneW
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Kin, I think you're right, that St Ansel used it at 1:119. Still a strange measurement for my metric graduates.
Dave, I've used Dil H with success, but I have trouble measuring the syrup accurately at that dilution, which is why I was seeking out 1:50 or 1:100 ratios.
Gene
Dave, I've used Dil H with success, but I have trouble measuring the syrup accurately at that dilution, which is why I was seeking out 1:50 or 1:100 ratios.
Gene
mongo141
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GeneW said:
Hi Gene, I put the stuff up in small brown bottles full to the lid then I use a small shringe marked in ml's to suck up whatever amount I am going to use and dispense that into a beaker which I then fill with the necessary amount of water. I only use the stuff as a one shot so I am working with a known amount each time. I gave up on the inch system a long time ago, I just wish my countrymen would see the light. Try www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110 which makes it easy. Dave
GeneW
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Dave, that's pretty much how I use HC-110 as well. The Covington site is excellent. It might be the syringes I'm using (baby syringes for medication) but I have a hard time guesstimating 18.8ml for dil B for 600ml solution, or 4.7ml for dil H for 300ml solution. Maybe it's not critical, but I can more easily handle 6ml for 600ml solution. Yes, one-shot is the best way to use HC-110. I think the odd ratios for HC-110 stemmed from US measures, e.g., 1 oz to make 32 oz (1 US quart) of solution. At any rate, I was glad to learn this 1:100 HC-110 method -- so far I'm impressed.mongo141 said:
Gene
mongo141
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GeneW said:
Hi Gene, I agree with you about the Great Yellow Father becoming untrust worthy. So I think I am going to put a couple of Lt of the stuff away in the bottom of the fridge for a rainy day. I was told that Ilford HD (?) I think is almost the same stuff, but I haven't tried any and HC110 seem to keep forever. I found a bottle last month that I had forgotten about, the date was 1999 .. the stuff still worked great. Dave
GeneW
Veteran
A look at a few of the frames of the Neopan 400 developed in HC-110 1:100
Gene
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