Held off on M240 and may buy A7r. Anyone else in this boat?

[gdi]

I would not put down the M8 relative to the M9. They complement each other for me.

Whaa, Raid? You have both the M8 and the M9? You should have let us know!! :angel:

 

[Duane Pandorf]

I guess Steve Huff has one in the house now to test. I like Steve and his site. Here's something he's already noticed with the new FE Zeiss 55mm

I have now been shooting them with the Native glass and yesterday shot them indoors at a reptile show in Phx and did notice the AF missing a bit with the 55 1.8 lens (when shooting at its minimum focus distance). I found that using selective spot focus helped but still was not what I had hoped. Not horrible but not 100% spot on either. Keep in mind this was INDOOR in lower light and the 55 1.8 was on the A7 not the A7r.

So can you override the autofocus with manually controlling the lens in the case above? So is the lens a fly by wire or direct manual focusing mechanism?

So I go to Sony's website to see what other info they have on the lens and they say this about the "fixed length" 55mm lens:

Features

A compact mid-range zoom that delivers outstanding performance with 35mm full frame format cameras

Sonnar T* FE 55mm F1.8 ZA

That gives me a lot of confidence as Sony describes this lens as a zoom.

 

[raid]

Whaa, Raid? You have both the M8 and the M9? You should have let us know!! :angel:

They make the near perfect pair of cameras for me. It is also a compact set for a small camera bag. Rotating two lenses between them gives me multiple focal lengths.

 

[hausen]

Take a deep breath Duane, think we all get the idea you don't like Sony.

 

[raid]

To show some balance, there have been some very agressive anti Leica/ pro SONY posters here and there who appeared as being fanatic in showing their disgust of Leica digital cameras and their prices.

These are camera brands. Calm down.

 

[GaryLH]

Well said Raid

Gary

 

[raid]

Gary,

This is how I have been seeing the postings online. There is often no reasonable balance. The anti-snob factor was very clear. It seems that some Leica users reacted to such "sub optimal" postings. (I nearly succumbed to the temptation to use another expression, but I proudly resisted here!)

 

[Duane Pandorf]

Take a deep breath Duane, think we all get the idea you don't like Sony.

I'm breathing very calmly hausen. And its not that I don't like Sony. I think they're a great company. But their camera designs and ergonomics are no different than all the other camera manufacturers except Leica.

We're on a Leica forum here discussing how well this camera will be able handle Leica M mount lenses and how great this camera will be by having the ability to use those lenses.

Plus we have someone saying this camera will be winning all kinds of photo awards with how its sensor renders, etc.

I understand those that don't want to shell out the funds or can afford the latest Leica M body. It is a lot of money. And its far from perfect either.

Once the camera is in the hands of enough photographers who take pictures in day to day operations we will finally get to see how it stacks up to its competition.

Actually, this conversation should be conducted on the Canon or Nikon forums since that is where Sony is trying to take market share. Their lens lineup is FE mount autofocus lenses. The talk here is about third party adapters and connecting third party lenses which aren't designed for Sony's sensor as Zeiss has already acknowledged.

 

[kbg32]

Here is some very interesting stuff:
http://cityusam01.blogspot.com/2013/11/sony-a7_14.html

a bunch of unusual RF glass

That's the plain A7 not R

I notice some plain vignetting and plain magenta corners on quite a few of those images.

 

[hausen]

Held off on M240 and may buy A7r. Anyone else in this boat?

Did you read the title of the thread? You may note the question is whether there are others holding off on the M240 for the A7r? I have the M9 and had the M8 and got offered the M240 last week but said no, and I can afford it. Just find it tiresome when all someone wants to do is bag something that a lot of people have been waiting for. And that includes people bagging the M240 as well. I have the RX-1 and love the way that Zeiss lens captures B&W Raw but equally love my Summicons on my M6.

 

[gdi]

They make the near perfect pair of cameras for me. It is also a compact set for a small camera bag. Rotating two le ss bewteen them gives me multiple focal lengths.

Of course! If you need a third focal length will you buy an M240?

 

[The Expanding Man]

Plus none of the lenses in these modern cameras give you depth of focus guides.

The Olympus m4/3 12mm and 17mm f1.8 come equipped with a focusing ring that can be pulled back to switch to manual focusing, which then reveals depth of focus guides.

Otherwise, I agree with your post.

 

[raid]

Of course! If you need a third focal length will you buy an M240?

The 35 and 50 set rotate between the M8 and M9, giving me 35-50-65 for a great set of classical Summicron lenses. I also use other lenses by Zeiss, Leica, Nikon, Canon, and CV.
I have no interest in any other digital cameras now. When I miss film, I have the M3 and M6, plus SWC and Rolleiflex for MF. 😀

 

[GaryLH]

The Olympus m4/3 12mm and 17mm f1.8 come equipped with a focusing ring that can be pulled back to switch to manual focusing, which then reveals depth of focus guides.

Otherwise, I agree with your post.

Fuji also did this on their 14 and 23 mm lenses. Whether they will do it on other lenses in the future, not sure.

Gary

 

[gdi]

The 35 and 50 set rotate between the M8 and M9, giving me 35-50-65 for a great set of classical Summicron lenses. I also use other lenses by Zeiss, Leica, Nikon, Canon, and CV.
I have no interest in any other digital cameras now. When I miss film, I have the M3 and M6, plus SWC and Rolleiflex for MF. 😀

Lol! Now I understand, thanks!

 

[cidereye]

Watch that you don't fetishize the camera at the expense of the pictures.

Nah, no chance of that semilog. You've taken what I said completely out of context too you naughty chap. 😀

My whole point was who gives a fig about what camera you use but it is important to find the "type" of camera that suits you and you work best with. An RF just happens to be the type of camera that suits "me". Nothing more, nothing less to be read into that. 😉

 

[semilog]

It has been up until now, Raid, but the continuing price increases on new equipment coupled with the radical slowing of really breakthrough advances will probably cause some of the better bodies to hold their value and potentially increase in value. Time will tell.

Doubtful — particularly for cameras that require proprietary batteries.

 

[semilog]

We're on a Leica forum here…

Well, in the Leica corner of the Rangefinder Forum, anyway.

And that does not imply any need to show special deference to Leica (which, by the way, I've been shooting since my dad put an M3 in my hands — with supervision — at age 5).

 

[hepcat]

Doubtful — particularly for cameras that require proprietary batteries.

Not merely proprietary batteries, mind you, but $120 proprietary batteries! 😱

Although even the later model electronic film cameras were designed around some pretty obscure and hard to find batteries.

 

[MCTuomey]

And that does not imply any need to show special deference to Leica (which, by the way, I've been shooting since my dad put an M3 in my hands — with supervision — at age 5).

Now that's a fine and touching memory of a father's influence ...