driggett
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Yesterday night I opened the shutter and saw a couple of dust specs on the ccd. I took my squeeze blower and removed most of them except one. I then took my "sensor swap" and tried to wipe it off when the sensor swap caused streak and hopefully not scratch marks. I thought I did not have to apply the fluid but I guess I was wrong. I took a couple of shots to see how bad it is and I coulod not see the streaks or scratches.
So my question is should I go and get the sensor swap solution and try to clean it again or bite the bullet and send it off to Epson?
One Homer Simpson feeling person here.
Thanks,
Chris
:bang:
So my question is should I go and get the sensor swap solution and try to clean it again or bite the bullet and send it off to Epson?
One Homer Simpson feeling person here.
Thanks,
Chris
:bang:
driggett
Established
Just got off the phone with Epson and they said try the solution. If that does not work then give them a call back and if need be I can send it to them and they will fix it free because it is still under warranty. Now that is mighty nice of them.
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks,
Chris
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Natalia
Guest
never dealt with Epson products. I am sure folks here will try to help. You could also read through some posts here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1013&page=2
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1013&page=2
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Kin Lau
Guest
I know I have dust on my 300D sensor, but the only time it shows up, is at apertures greater than F16. I can't see it on any other shots.
I've heard that Canon Canada will clean it for free, 5 min's if you walk into their main depot.
I've heard that Canon Canada will clean it for free, 5 min's if you walk into their main depot.
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krimple
Guest
Use the fluid!!!
Use the fluid!!!
I've owned digital SLRs for three years now and also have and mostly now shoot the R-D1.
I have a box of sensor swabs and the Eclipse fluid. I use it maybe two times a year on my DSLRs, and I've used it one time so far on the R-D1.
Follow the instructions exactly. Basically you put two drops of fluid or so on the swab, wipe in one direction with moderate pressure on the CCD, and then turn the swab around and wipe back the way you came again.
That will usually do it, and especially with the R-D1 there isn't a ton of f/16 shooting with that beast. I save macros for my SLR, so consequently I don't see much dust unless I'm at f/11 or so.
Knock wood, but four cameras later I haven't had a scratch. Of course I usually use the blower a few times before resorting to cleaning the sensor. Usually they have an anti-alias filter in front, which keeps the actual CCD from scratching, so you probably didn't do a ton of harm. The trick is NEVER to swab it dry as you can just rub a hard dirt particle along the surface with nothing to lube it and avoid scratching.
I wish you good luck and hope it's just a streak and not a scratch. BTW, if anything, the R-D1 is cake to clean the sensor on, due to the lack of a mirror box.
Ken
Use the fluid!!!
I've owned digital SLRs for three years now and also have and mostly now shoot the R-D1.
I have a box of sensor swabs and the Eclipse fluid. I use it maybe two times a year on my DSLRs, and I've used it one time so far on the R-D1.
Follow the instructions exactly. Basically you put two drops of fluid or so on the swab, wipe in one direction with moderate pressure on the CCD, and then turn the swab around and wipe back the way you came again.
That will usually do it, and especially with the R-D1 there isn't a ton of f/16 shooting with that beast. I save macros for my SLR, so consequently I don't see much dust unless I'm at f/11 or so.
Knock wood, but four cameras later I haven't had a scratch. Of course I usually use the blower a few times before resorting to cleaning the sensor. Usually they have an anti-alias filter in front, which keeps the actual CCD from scratching, so you probably didn't do a ton of harm. The trick is NEVER to swab it dry as you can just rub a hard dirt particle along the surface with nothing to lube it and avoid scratching.
I wish you good luck and hope it's just a streak and not a scratch. BTW, if anything, the R-D1 is cake to clean the sensor on, due to the lack of a mirror box.
Ken
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Natalia
Guest
found the Copperhil method. I use it with great success on my 20D.
http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning
http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning
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Tom Conte
Guest
Just curious, but the R-D1 doesn't have a sensor cleaning mode that locks the shutter open.
What did you do, put it in B and hope your finger didn't slip?
I'm really close to buying a Visible Dust sensor brush. $100, but who cares if it works reliably and easily.
Tom
What did you do, put it in B and hope your finger didn't slip?
I'm really close to buying a Visible Dust sensor brush. $100, but who cares if it works reliably and easily.
Tom
JonasYip
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The Visible Dust sensor brush works quite well indeed. I haven't used it on the R-D1 yet, but it cleaned up my D1X sensor that had I had never cleaned* (3 years!) with no problem.
* Dust has never really been a problem for me, probably because I tend to shoot wide open a lot...
j
* Dust has never really been a problem for me, probably because I tend to shoot wide open a lot...
j
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krimple
Guest
Tom,
lol!
Since the camera is so small, I set it in 'B', lock my thumb around the shutter button and use my right hand to clean the sensor. No, the Epson does not have a cleaning mode. Go figure!
Ken
lol!
Since the camera is so small, I set it in 'B', lock my thumb around the shutter button and use my right hand to clean the sensor. No, the Epson does not have a cleaning mode. Go figure!
Ken
Tom Conte said:
gns
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How can the aperture setting affect the appearence of dust on the sensor?
Isn't this the same as having dust on your film when it is exposed (a common issue with sheet film)?
Isn't this the same as having dust on your film when it is exposed (a common issue with sheet film)?
JonasYip
Well-known
> How can the aperture setting affect the appearence of dust on the sensor?
> Isn't this the same as having dust on your film when it is exposed (a common
> issue with sheet film)?
I guess because of the angle of light hitting the CCD, and the shadows that get cast by the dust speck. A small aperture is like pointing a pinpoint light source at your subject, and you end up with distinct edges. A wide open aperture is like a giant softbox (relative to the f16 hole) and the shadows are filled, and edges feathered.
So light hitting the CCD from many angles in the wide open case allow some light to get "around" the dust into a partially blocked sensor, minimizing the resultant spot.
Also, the dust on a CCD is sitting on a filter or protective layer in front of the CCD, and so there is space between it and the sensor array, and the light coming from enough different directions really can get in there. With the sheet film, the dust really is sitting on the film surface.
I'm just guessing, thinking out loud, as they say...
j
> Isn't this the same as having dust on your film when it is exposed (a common
> issue with sheet film)?
I guess because of the angle of light hitting the CCD, and the shadows that get cast by the dust speck. A small aperture is like pointing a pinpoint light source at your subject, and you end up with distinct edges. A wide open aperture is like a giant softbox (relative to the f16 hole) and the shadows are filled, and edges feathered.
So light hitting the CCD from many angles in the wide open case allow some light to get "around" the dust into a partially blocked sensor, minimizing the resultant spot.
Also, the dust on a CCD is sitting on a filter or protective layer in front of the CCD, and so there is space between it and the sensor array, and the light coming from enough different directions really can get in there. With the sheet film, the dust really is sitting on the film surface.
I'm just guessing, thinking out loud, as they say...
j
gns
Well-known
Thank you, J.
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Sean Reid
Guest
I haven't bought them yet but I'm going to get the Visible Dust brushes. The dust is actually sitting on the glass protective filter, not the CCD itself. It becomes more visible at smaller lens openings because of DOF. One way around holding the shutter down is to use a simple cable release with a locking screw (widely available). Just be sure the battery is fully charged before you begin.
Cheers,
Sean
Cheers,
Sean
jlw
Rangefinder camera pedant
krimple said:
No, go buy a locking cable release!
driggett
Established
Cleaned my ccd
Cleaned my ccd
Well I cleaned my ccd and got rid of the streaks but the scratches still seem to be there. I took some test shots of a wall and I can not see any problems wide open or closed down. I think I will send it to Epson for a look anyway.
Thanks,
Chris
Cleaned my ccd
Well I cleaned my ccd and got rid of the streaks but the scratches still seem to be there. I took some test shots of a wall and I can not see any problems wide open or closed down. I think I will send it to Epson for a look anyway.
Thanks,
Chris
driggett
Established
I have a question if the filter is made of glass how can I scratch it with a clean dry sensor swap? The sensor swap was taken from the package and used right away.
Thanks,
Chris
P.S. I used the Sensor swap made by photographic solutions and eclipse fluid.
Thanks,
Chris
P.S. I used the Sensor swap made by photographic solutions and eclipse fluid.
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Sean Reid
Guest
I can't say without seeing the glass but sometimes what look like scratches are just lines of slight residue from the cleaning fluid after its been wiped with the swab. One often sees lines like that after cleaning a lens or rangefinder window until they're carefully buffed out with a Pec Pad or the like.
It's up to you but I wouldn't bother sending it to Epson unless you notice some kind of deterioration in the picture quality from this. I think its more likely to be residue than a scratch.
Cheers,
Sean
It's up to you but I wouldn't bother sending it to Epson unless you notice some kind of deterioration in the picture quality from this. I think its more likely to be residue than a scratch.
Cheers,
Sean
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Sean Reid
Guest
I wouldn't even know where to begin to respond to such a ridiculous post. What's Jorge's position on Trolls?
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Natalia
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supermarcel23 said:
we don't use that kind of language here. If you'd like to make a point, try doing it in a civil manner, please.
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
supermarcel23 said:
Like we didn't notice you do!
Now, chum, if you can't address a problem, don't gloat either. It's extremely vulgar and we're civilized people here.