Help me get started with B&W processing

dave lackey

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Well, the last year has been non-stop hospital/caregiving but I have most of the equipment to develop my own B&W film now, with the exception of a dark changing bag.

I normally shoot Tri-X but some Ilford and Kodak 400. The first roll I would like to try would be Tri-X. Seems like a lot of folks have had great result with Rodinal, but am open to suggestions.

Can someone walk me through the procurement of what I need and a step-by-step procedure to develop my first roll?😱

Your help would be greatly appreciated.:angel:
 
I like Fuji Acros in Rodinal Stand Development 1:100 dilution. I've had good luck with Rodinal and fresh TMAX 400, but for the outdated TMAX 400 I have access to I prefer Ilford DD-X at the standard times.

I like using Ilford DD-X and the other Ilford chemicals as they're in liquid form, and easier to deal with for a single roll.

I use a closet instead of a changing bag, but I was lucky, the house we bought last year had a closet that was very easy to make light tight.

I'd say the first thing you need to do is decide on what process to use, if Rodinal, will you be doing standing development (it is a great place to start).
 
I've just gotten started and I can just tell you that it's way easier than I thought it would be. 🙂

There are some good videos on YouTube that might help you, just search for "developing black white film" or something like that. I started with Caffenol-C -- it's probably a good idea to start with a "real" developer, but for there was just something about developing in coffee I couldn't resist...
 
Rodinal and TriX is fun and quite forgiving. Precision pays with the stronger dilutions. When you don't want to mess with timers and temperatures (or you are very unsure about your metering), 1:100 and walk away for a few hours.
 
There are a few general rules that pay off over time.

1) Use demineralized water for diluting the developer and for the last rinse bath
2) Forget the stop bath, use fresh fxer every time
3) Use liquid developers, this is eliminating the waste of time needed to prepare it from powder
4) Do not use dilutions that result in developing times shorter than 8-10 minutes, this will cause consistency problems
5) Use the same size tank for the same amount of film every time as much as possible, this also ensures consistency with lower dilutions
6) do not believe the hype about stand development, it will inevitably cause uneven results, with Rodinal agitate sparingly once every 3 minutes
7) if you can, buy 4 Hewes 35mm reels and a steel tank that houses them, you will need a steel rod too
8) when you prepare the liquids, place them in a sink with water at the right temperature at leat half an hour before you start the whole thing, this way you will have all the process done at similar temperature - if you use running water for washing, make sure it is not off by more than 2 deg C from the rest
9) Look through the RFF developing threads for the rest of the practical tips, BTW for me with Tri X ,DD-X 1+9 EI 400, 10 mins at 20deg C works very well. Rodinal will lower the film speed quite a bit
 
Dave, here is what you need, in addition to Rodinal:

- a changing bag (I use a Kalt one)
- scissors and a bottle opener
- a thermometer
- development canister and spools (mine are from Paterson - easiest to use, IMO)
- measurement beakers (I use 3 for developer, fixer, and final wash with flo)
- Rapid fixed (I use Ilford)
- photo-flo (I use droplets added to water)
- a syringe to measure developer when you mix with water
- a dust free place in the house, a string and clamps to dry the film

Go to the massive development chart to look for times. I use Rodinal 1:100 and have adjusted exposures on the various films I use to fit in 20' "semi stand". Meaning you agitate once every 10 sec in the first minute, then gently every 3 minutes afterwards. You can use normal tap water for everything. When I start I prepare a big bowl with tap water at the right temperature (20 deg celsius). Adding hot water or ice cubes until just right. Then I go from big bowl into beakers. After the 20' development, you empty the developer, wash a few times with water, and fix, for about 5 minutes (not critical). Then you empty the fixer, wash a few times with tap water, and then finish with the final wash with flo.

Have fun - it's pretty easy and very rewarding.

Roland.
 
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Cool...

So, what I need now is:
1. Rodinal
2. Changing bag
3. Rapid fixed (I use Ilford)
4. Photo-flo (I use droplets added to water)
5. A syringe to measure developer when you mix with water

Thanks, Roland!!!😉
 
I read recently about a fellow that used a slow-cooker, the one with degree settings, to heat up his solutions. Anyone try this (?) or should i leave the wife's stuff alone. It did sound like an inexpensive way to get quick, repeatable temperatures.
 
I read about someone using a crock pot, I'd love to find one with degree settings, however, in the case I read it was for doing E-6 development. One comment, if you do go this route, get one specifically for photography, and use a permanent marker to note that it is not to be used for food!
 
You needn't be fixated on Rodinal, it is best to use chemicals which are widely available and inexpensive. For Trix I prefer to use D76, which is cheap and easy to find, and it gives great results. If I want finer grain I use Microdol, or Fuji's Microfine. My entire black and white developing kit cost me only $50 or so. I don't use a changing bag as my bathroom is completely dark with the lights out and the door shut.

The most important thing in developing film is consistency.

I got a Jobo 2500 series drum and reels from eBay for $25, I got a thermometer at the local camera outlet for $10, I also bought a couple 1 liter bottles for $2 each, and a digital egg timer for $1. A packet of D76 cost $2.50, and a bottle of fixer was $7. This is all the equipment necessary for basic developing, one packet of developer will process 10 thirty-six exposure rolls of film. The one liter bottle of concentrated fixer will fix 40 thirty-six exposure rolls of film.

The process for developing film is simple. Opening the film canister and removing the film is easily done with a bottle opener, or a pair of pliers. Threading the film onto the film developing spool is a bit tricky, plastic spools are easier than the metal ones. Once the film is on the developing spool, you can cut off the little plastic film spool. You then put the developing spool into your developing tank and put on the lid tightly. The above process is of course done in absolute darkness, in a changing bag, or in a darkened room.

Next you must prepare your chemicals, I use only 3, developer, fixer and water. I adjust the temperature of my chemicals to 20 degrees C using warm or cold water, depending on the time of year. The first step is developing ( I don't bother with a prewash or soak), which takes 8-10 minutes depending on the film and developer. The next step is the stop bath, for which I use ordinary water, and takes less than a minute, and last is fixing, which takes 5-7minutes. After fixing I wash the film in running water for at least 10 minutes, and then add a few drops of Dry-well, or Sunlight dish soap to the tank before emptying the water and
removing the film.

I hang the film to dry in a dust free place (your shower is a good choice). I attach a weighted clip to the bottom to keep the film hanging straight, and letting it dry overnight will let it get flatter. I then cut the film into strips containing 6 exposures. If I want them to be extra-flat, I will put them in plastic sleeves and put them in a heavy book for a day or two.

The normal process at standard dilutions takes about 30 minutes, including the wash, plus drying time. I enjoy developing film, it is a stress-relieving activity for me, or something to do when the weather is too bad to shoot.
 
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Hi Dave,
I develop about twice a week in d-76, rodinal, E6 and now C41. You are more than invited to swing by one evening and we can do the whole process start to finish. It sure would help me to work with another photographer......... 🙂
PM me to set a time
 
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