camperbc
Established
I just purchased a beautiful, mint Electro 35 GSN online, and then went hunting for batteries. I came across one on Ebay which is supposed to be a good match for this camera, but now that I have ordered it I am second guessing, as I am always reading posts from people mixing/matching/taping series of batteries together, or using an adapter. If this battery is indeed a perfect fit, then why are so many people NOT using it? Below is the seller's link to the battery I ordered. (and a pic of it) Please tell me if this will work, and if so, why are others not using it?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/260851120979?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Thanks, and MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!
Glen
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/260851120979?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Thanks, and MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!
Glen
Greyscale
Veteran
That battery will work just fine.
farlymac
PF McFarland
That battery, and an adapter to hold it.
PF
PF
Greyscale
Veteran
Won't need an adapter with that one, I believe. I had the same battery in a Praktica SLR, and it fit the GSN without an adapter.
camperbc
Established
An adapter is supposedly not necessary, which begs the question, why doesn't everyone go this route, rather than mess around with adapters, multiple batteries, springs, spacers, etc? Or is it because people may not be aware that such a battery exists?
Glen
Glen
gb hill
Veteran
You don't use an adapter for that battery. I have a GSN & adapter. The adapter is for the more common PX-28 used in A series Canon cameras. The battery you ordered will work just fine but you will need to order more. Better to buy an adapter, then you can go to any store to get the more common PX28.
http://www.zbattery.com/Duracell-PX28A-6-Volt-Alkaline-Battery
scottgee1
RF renegade
Can't speak for others, but I've had less than satisfactory results with alkaline batteries so I use silver whenever possible. I found silver typically have a much longer life and are more stable.
Of course mercury cells were the best and though I support any effort to clean up the environment, one has to wonder how much the increasingly ubiquitous mercury CFL lightbulbs will add to landfills vs. the amount that batteries have.
gb hill
Veteran
Problem with that battery is you have to order it. They don't sell it in stores. Do they have any Batteries Plus stores in your area? If so you can get them to order the battery for you & you wont need to fool with ebay.I just purchased a beautiful, mint Electro 35 GSN online, and then went hunting for batteries. I came across one on Ebay which is supposed to be a good match for this camera, but now that I have ordered it I am second guessing, as I am always reading posts from people mixing/matching/taping series of batteries together, or using an adapter. If this battery is indeed a perfect fit, then why are so many people NOT using it? Below is the seller's link to the battery I ordered. (and a pic of it) Please tell me if this will work, and if so, why are others not using it?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/260851120979?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Thanks, and MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!
Glen
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
The Yashica GS I had for a brief time had one of those batteries, no adapter, it worked well. You're OK. Enjoy the camera!
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
Glen, the 164 battery will fit the GSN/GTN just fine.
There is a lot written about batteries for camera applications. The disadvantage of this batter is that it is alkaline based, so the voltage declines continuously as it discharges. The 164 battery is also unusual and more expensive.
It's not clear whether the exposure in the GSN/GTN is significantly affected by voltage changes in the battery. To play safe, you can use a silver-oxide battery which maintains much more constant voltage (vs. alkaline) till it's gone. A silver-oxide S28 in a suitable adapter is my preferred route for GSN/GTN. The adapter I like most is by seller bennfoto.
YashicaGuy adapters also work well. And, finally, PX28 batteries seem to come in silver-oxide, alkaline, and lithium variants.
Enjoy your camera.
There is a lot written about batteries for camera applications. The disadvantage of this batter is that it is alkaline based, so the voltage declines continuously as it discharges. The 164 battery is also unusual and more expensive.
It's not clear whether the exposure in the GSN/GTN is significantly affected by voltage changes in the battery. To play safe, you can use a silver-oxide battery which maintains much more constant voltage (vs. alkaline) till it's gone. A silver-oxide S28 in a suitable adapter is my preferred route for GSN/GTN. The adapter I like most is by seller bennfoto.
YashicaGuy adapters also work well. And, finally, PX28 batteries seem to come in silver-oxide, alkaline, and lithium variants.
Enjoy your camera.
gb hill
Veteran
Can't speak for others, but I've had less than satisfactory results with alkaline batteries so I use silver whenever possible. I found silver typically have a much longer life and are more stable.
Of course mercury cells were the best and though I support any effort to clean up the environment, one has to wonder how much the increasingly ubiquitous mercury CFL lightbulbs will add to landfills vs. the amount that batteries have.
Mercury will get into the water system & our future generations will suffer. Thanks to our brilliant government for thinking so much of the people instead of lining their pockets from lobbist backing these squiggly lightbulb corporations!
farlymac
PF McFarland
You know, as soon as I hit the Submit button, I figured I made a mistake. I always thought that battery was the same size as a 4LR44, so I never bought one. But I'm not a big fan of alkalines anyway, so I'll stick to my adapters and silver oxides.
PF
PF
kuzano
Veteran
Use a .410 shotgun shell....
Use a .410 shotgun shell....
A few years ago when I had a Yashica Gxx fetish, I bought two adaptors from a fellow in Arizona. He had them kitted with two adaptors and 2 batteries for a price.
I received them and recognized them as the base portion of a .410 shotgun shell cut down, with the copper base and about half an inch of the red cartridge portion. The primer was drilled out and had a floating rivet, and a small spring inside. The common 6v L28 lithium battery fit in the cartridge opening perfectly.
I used the two of them for some time until my Yashica's no longer thrilled me.
I called him, and he made no bones about the source of his adaptor. I gave him positive feedback for his creativity, because his price was "really right"!!!
SPECIAL NOTE:
By the way, Colonel Sebastian is correctomundo mucho soooo!!!
Avoid alkaline batteries at all cost on all adaptations for these old camera's
The voltage drop curve causes a constant change in the metering over the life of the batteries. Nothing like Alkalines to make you think you got a "BUM" camera. Yashica camera's are great with good image quality, but using Alkaline batteries will have you wanting to sell the camera soon without really understanding why.
Just adopt this phrase... "Alkaline Sucks!" Find another solution.
Nothing made me hate Alkalines more than having to own stock in delco to afford feeding a constant stream of double AA batteries into my walkmans in the 60's/70's.
BTW... have you visited the www.yashica-guy.com web site. He has all this information spelled out succinctly.
Use a .410 shotgun shell....
A few years ago when I had a Yashica Gxx fetish, I bought two adaptors from a fellow in Arizona. He had them kitted with two adaptors and 2 batteries for a price.
I received them and recognized them as the base portion of a .410 shotgun shell cut down, with the copper base and about half an inch of the red cartridge portion. The primer was drilled out and had a floating rivet, and a small spring inside. The common 6v L28 lithium battery fit in the cartridge opening perfectly.
I used the two of them for some time until my Yashica's no longer thrilled me.
I called him, and he made no bones about the source of his adaptor. I gave him positive feedback for his creativity, because his price was "really right"!!!
SPECIAL NOTE:
By the way, Colonel Sebastian is correctomundo mucho soooo!!!
Avoid alkaline batteries at all cost on all adaptations for these old camera's
The voltage drop curve causes a constant change in the metering over the life of the batteries. Nothing like Alkalines to make you think you got a "BUM" camera. Yashica camera's are great with good image quality, but using Alkaline batteries will have you wanting to sell the camera soon without really understanding why.
Just adopt this phrase... "Alkaline Sucks!" Find another solution.
Nothing made me hate Alkalines more than having to own stock in delco to afford feeding a constant stream of double AA batteries into my walkmans in the 60's/70's.
BTW... have you visited the www.yashica-guy.com web site. He has all this information spelled out succinctly.
camperbc
Established
Interesting replies from all of you. Surprising really, regarding the differences of opinion, with some insisting the alkalines work perfectly with this camera, and yet others stating they are disastrous. I will have to try it out, and get back with my findings. Thanks again to all of you; much appreciated!
Glen
Glen
kuzano
Veteran
Some may not notice metering difference
Some may not notice metering difference
I submit that, when using film with a large range of latitude, it may not be as obvious when the metering changes due to the continuous decline in alkaline voltage as one uses it.
I have taken pains to hand meter alongside various camera meters when using Alkalines. Also, it is true that the circuitry in cameras differ from make to make.
I suggest you keep a fresh battery in a volt meter, and every couple of weeks, if you are actively using your camera, take the battery out and measure and log the voltage drop. That drop affects meter results.
Alkalines simply suck in metering situations.d
OTOH, some people are simply not critical about image results.
Some may not notice metering difference
I submit that, when using film with a large range of latitude, it may not be as obvious when the metering changes due to the continuous decline in alkaline voltage as one uses it.
I have taken pains to hand meter alongside various camera meters when using Alkalines. Also, it is true that the circuitry in cameras differ from make to make.
I suggest you keep a fresh battery in a volt meter, and every couple of weeks, if you are actively using your camera, take the battery out and measure and log the voltage drop. That drop affects meter results.
Alkalines simply suck in metering situations.d
OTOH, some people are simply not critical about image results.
camperbc
Established
"Alkalines simply suck in metering situations. OTOH, some people are simply not critical about image results."
I, for one, am indeed very fussy about image quality; I want everything to be the very best it can be... all the time, without exception. I am intrigued about this battery issue, and look forward to doing some detailed testing with the alkaline battery, regarding any potential change in voltage, and the effect it may have on the metering of the camera.
In the meantime, I have also ordered a silver oxide S28 along with Bennfoto's adapter, so that my bases are covered.
Glen
I, for one, am indeed very fussy about image quality; I want everything to be the very best it can be... all the time, without exception. I am intrigued about this battery issue, and look forward to doing some detailed testing with the alkaline battery, regarding any potential change in voltage, and the effect it may have on the metering of the camera.
In the meantime, I have also ordered a silver oxide S28 along with Bennfoto's adapter, so that my bases are covered.
Glen
RT_Panther
Member
I just purchased one of these for my Electro 35 GSN....Perfect fit, no adapters required, & all electronics work as they should!
-> http://www.batterymart.com/p-exell-a32-a164-6v-alkaline-battery.html
-> http://www.batterymart.com/p-exell-a32-a164-6v-alkaline-battery.html
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
I just purchased one of these for my Electro 35 GSN....Perfect fit, no adapters required, & all electronics work as they should!
-> http://www.batterymart.com/p-exell-a32-a164-6v-alkaline-battery.html
That battery will certainly work in the full-size Yashica Electros (G, GS, GSN, GT, GTN). As I wrote earlier, it's not clear whether the changing voltage of Alkalines will affect the exposure in these cameras. It would be nice to have a real test.
I prefer not to take chances, so I use the S28 with an adapter.
I wish you all good shooting!
RT_Panther
Member
Good point Sebastian!
I'll let you know when I get a roll through it....
I'll let you know when I get a roll through it....
btgc
Veteran
How much would you have to pay for 4SR44 or 4 x SR44 ? Basically, we are talking about dimensions allowing instant fit vs benefits of constant voltage.
Regarding voltage - this model of Yashica tolerates deviance from projected voltage, but I have no data about second part of life of alkaline battery when voltage gets sloppy. XA2 which can use both SR44 or LR44, gave me bad exposures when alkaline button cells were on their last breathe. Which to choose? You decide. We are not discussing choice between alkaline and mercury (not obtainable) cells, we mean choice between current and available silver oxide and alkaline cells.
Regarding voltage - this model of Yashica tolerates deviance from projected voltage, but I have no data about second part of life of alkaline battery when voltage gets sloppy. XA2 which can use both SR44 or LR44, gave me bad exposures when alkaline button cells were on their last breathe. Which to choose? You decide. We are not discussing choice between alkaline and mercury (not obtainable) cells, we mean choice between current and available silver oxide and alkaline cells.