Help!!! Trapped On An Island For 4 Months- What Camera!?!

Help!!! Trapped On An Island For 4 Months- What Camera!?!

  • XPan II with 30mm lens & Canon Sure Shot A1 Underwater

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • XPan II with 45mm lens & Canon Sure Shot A1 Underwater

    Votes: 7 17.5%
  • XPan II with 90mm lens & Canon Sure Shot A1 Underwater

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • XPan II with 30 & 90mm lenses

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • XPan II with 30 & 45mm lenses

    Votes: 7 17.5%
  • XPan II with 45 & 90mm lenses

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • Seriously, forget the clothes, take all three lenses & the underwater camera!

    Votes: 8 20.0%
  • Too risky for the delicate XPan, take the Canon underwater camera, think of the weight savings!

    Votes: 1 2.5%
  • Ditch what you've got, get a dSLR (post which make/model you think is best, and why)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ditch what you've got, get a digital rangefinder (post which make/model you think is best, and why)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other! (post your suggestion)

    Votes: 6 15.0%
  • Blarp!?!

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • Total voters
    40
Yes the island is remote. But it doesn't sound "primitive" by any means what with a satellite dish for web access and computers and refrigerators etc! ;)

So while it would be a good fail safe to have a camera that can operate w/o batteries - I wouldn't rule one out for that reason. Particularly since a decent P&S digital with a charger and a couple of NiMh rechargable batteries will be light and compact.

So I would definitely bring on along - there are times when you are just going to want to take a quick shot and that's a great use for a digi.

If you can get your hands on a Nikonos that would be ideal both for the underwater use and as a "rugged" overall film camera (I'm thinking about ever-present heat and humidity). Obviously if you can store your film in the fridge that would be preferable. But there is another recent thread here regarding someone going to Guinea Bissau in West Africa and there are some good film recommendations in it.

Have a good time, do good work, take lots of pics and post some here when you return! :D
 
Take the X-Pan kit! You are familiar with the camera and you don't want to miss those once-in-a-lifetime shots fumbling with new gear. Bring three sets of batteries, a table top tripod, a cable release, and as much Velvia as you dare, and your point and shoot, of course. A real waterproof bag, (like Ortlieb makes), might not be a bad idea, as well as a few silica packets that you can keep in the bag and dry out periodically to offset the humidity:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...s&Q=&sku=242571&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
 
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Yes, you can make a bicycle that powers a generator and Gilligan can ride the bicycle to charge up your batteries. For developer, use coconut milk and for fixer, the juice of the wa-wa berry. The Professor can invent something, I'm sure. Mister and Missus Howell will bankroll the cheesecake photos you'll be taking of Ginger and MaryAnne when you're all rescued, and when you find out that the Gilligan thought the film was a new kind of dessert and ate it all, you can hit him on the head with your hat.

Best Regards,

The Skipper
 
kbg32 said:
Xpan and a digital ? Bring lots of spare batteries.

Actually, just bring a few rechargeable NiMhs of the proper size(s) and a charger! They have computers, they have refrigerators, they have radios - ergo - they have electricity! :D
 
A heretic's view

A heretic's view

The A1 waterproof camera is a good idea!

For the serious stuff, I'd like to present a heretical idea. Get two Spotmatic SLRs and a handful of Takumar lenses such as a 28mm, 50mm/1.4, macro 50mm/4, and a 200mm/4. I'd also get a 500mm mirror lens.

The Spotmatics are small (as SLRs go) and very rugged. They have TTL metering. They can use mercury, silver, or alkaline batteries for the lightmeter. They are totally mechanical, if the lightmeter fails.

The lenses are excellent. Herbert Kepler ran a test about five years ago comparing '60s or '70s vintage Taks against then current Leitz lenses. He found them essentially equal. (I have just put on my flame suit) ;)

You will have the ability to do wildlife, extreme close ups, existing light, and wide shots. You lose the advantages of RF, but gain macro and very long focus.

This outfit is dirt cheap. You will not cry if you lose or break a lens. Each of the lenses will cost less than $50. The 200mm might cost $75. Throw in a 35mm lens instead of the 28mm, its $10 cheaper! A good m42 spotmatic camera will cost $100 or less. Get two! If you want automation, get an ES spotmatic for one of the cameras. It will work in manual without a battery. The outfit I described will easily cost less than $500 including two cameras. With filters, one set of 49mm will fit everything but the 200mm and the 500mm.

Lets us know your choices and reasons.

Enjoy the trip!
 
If you have net access, then I'd seriously consider ditching film for this excursion. Why?
- won't run out of film
- immediate results, no need to wait the 4 months to develop the film
- easier to sort through your images, instead of scanning the hundreds of rolls of film you may shoot ;)
- can be smaller, with good zooms

Some of the higher quality ones you might consider.. sony rd1, older canon 300d rebel or nikon d70, fuji s2 pro, etc etc.

Of course, the drawbacks here are battery requirements, and that you're not using.. film (film has the varieties availble to it that you don't really get with digital unless you plan to do some work in PS).

There are some waterproof digital P&S's available, too, I think sony and pentax had some. I was considering getting one to document when I go surfing :D

BY the way, that trip looks awesome! Wish I could do four months like that...
 
I think I'm set for batteries. So don't worry about that anymore.

I really love the idea of taking one film and one digital. I am focusing on the Pentax W10, based on suggestions for the digital. Read this thread in the General Discussions forum for why. Please let me know if you know of a better underwater digital camera that has 6+ megapixels and is less than $270.

Great suggesions on the other camera options guys! Keep them coming, and I might see one that makes me want to leave the XPan behind. So far, I know the XPan, and I really love the panoramic format. Maybe there's a better reason to switch out to a different camera? In the future I would really be interested in experimenting with those relatively inexpensive camera suggestions, too.

If the XPan is it, which lens would you take if limited to one, and why?

I am considering the LowePro DryZone Rover as my waterproof camera bag. I am also considering a weather cover for the XPan, or at least a neoprene lens cap if one fits this camera. The silica gel idea is genius! Lightweight, too. Maybe I'll go raid a clothing store.

This thread was copied here from the General Discussion original, which is getting more comments, so if you want, you can switch to that one. http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22510
 
It's a research station. Do you know what you'll be doing?

Tern Island and the French Frigate Shoals are one of the largest nesting sites for Albatrosses in the world, 1.2 million of them. One of those birds, was a mother who was tracked flying some 38,706 miles in 4 months to feed her little chick. See the link here http://magazine.audubon.org/features0101/albatross.html

While an XPan shot of an Albatross with that massive wingspan will be very appropriate and impressive, I think you'll kick yourself if you don't bring a DSLR with some medium and/or long-tele's. A Rebel XT + Sigma 50-500 is probably the best combo given the limitations. I use that combo myself. Bring a tripod or at least a good sturdy monopod if you do, and a DVD burner too.

If you understand the significance of these islands and the birds that breed there, this is a trip of a life-time. Take good advantage of it.

They list about 19 species of birds that breed and nest in those islands, most of which are hard to get near to otherwise.

To bring it back to RF's. _Do_ bring your XPan + lenses, and document the research and the researchers.
 
Actually, when you think about all of the bird droppings, maybe the best thing would be to bring along a few cheapo P&S's and a case of disposables?

Four months on guano island!

PeeeeeeeYouuuuuuu :confused: :(
 
Hey everybody!!! I survived the island and had a blast. I recommend to any of you who are willing to put in an 8 hour day of work (6 days per week) for free food, housing, occasional boat rides to nearby islands, as much snorkling as you could ever want with underwater views made famous by Jean Phillipe Cousteau's movie "Voyage to Kure." Oh, and did I mention the photography?

Here's what I decided to take with me... The great suggestion of the Pentax underwater camera, the W10. For those of you who may be interested, Pentax has made a W20, with 7 mp instead of 6. I'm sure they'll come out with another in six months with another mp. Enough with the commercial, my testimonial about it is ho-hum. Well, not that bad... I was thrilled with having a digital camera that was so versatile (e.g. underwater, video, audio recorder, and a load of extras). However there were a couple of things that I was regularly annoyed with.

1. The biggest problem was the warping of the landscape, most noticeable with horizon photos. I had to be very careful with composition involving landscapes.

2. An annoyance was during snorkling. Pentax recommends a depth of 5 feet, which is nothing. I can tell you what happens just a couple of feet under water... the trigger gets depressed by the pressure at the half-press position. This action reduces functionality because if you want to take a picture, the focus may have been set who knows how much earlier, may not reset after taking a shot, and many images were woefully fuzzy. I found myself constantly raising my arm to the surface to reset it.

3. The camera makes a beeping noise as it is zooming in or out, which is amplified by the microphone when taking video. Again, an annoyance when you're watching the video. Better not to use it if you want to relive the audial experience.

4. I could actually see the large screen on the back warp while underwater. I was worried the thing would implode! No diving down to inspect anything.

5. The camera doesn't float. When you're snorkling in water over 5 feet deep, don't lose it or it just might implode before it hits even a retrievable depth. Another annoying worry. I figured out how to loop the camera strap through my watch so as to "lock" it to my wrist. However, the velcro watch strap was only so strong at times.

And of course, I brought my XPan II. Which lenses? I brought all three! My luggage was a total of 48 lbs. I got away with it because there was a flight the week before we got there that resupplied food, so our flight was light. Nobody even weighed the luggage, although there was a scale ominously nearby the plane at the hangar. I didn't have to worry about the weight for the trip back because the plane is 300 lbs lighter from used fuel. They did not inform me of any of this, so I was crossing my fingers until I saw the Pilot stow one bag and allowed me to carry my second.


Unfortunately, I am "between jobs" right now, and cannot afford to develop the film! I know... it sucks. I have it stored in the fridge. Anybody want to make a donation?

Not having developed the film yet, my only review of the XPan on an island in the middle of nowhere is: it's great. I am glad I brought all three lenses. I loved having the 30 mm there, but with so many birds on the island, and not always having access to getting up close to them (there are limits on accessability- if you want to go for photography you should talk to them first), I regularly used the 90 mm for the composition I wanted. I used the 45 mm the least. My only complaint is the slowness of the lenses. Photographing flying birds by hand is difficult, and I have no idea if any of those came out. I'm just a newbie, but I think I am right on this. Especially during the "golden hour." I found out that the Golden Hour is a little different when you're surrounded by thousands of miles of ocean. What happens is the ocean spray actually blocks all those glorious colors from actually hitting anything. You can see it in the sky, or on the rare calm water day on the ground, but I found it difficult to get those glowing brilliant colors to hit anything close to ground level most days. And that would be why I thought it was difficult to shoot in low light with the best coloration. The lenses are slow, and I have a feeling that not many of those shots worked for me. Someday (hopefully soon), I will get them developed and scanned.

I have a photo album online already established before I became a member here, and mostly record-keeping images. I have posted all of the most interesting images from Tern on this site. Go check 'em out and vote for your favorites! http://ruschhaupt.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album04

Once I get my XPan images developed and scanned, I will post some on here for sure. I really appreciate all of your suggestions and helpful information. You people are a great resource.
 
A digital choice that is a remarkable tool is the Panasonic Lumix DMC FXO1. It is a tiny 6 megapixel camera that has image stabilization, fantastic battery life and a Leica lens. Extra batteries are available cheap on ebay. I'm happy with mine after months of use. It is tiny enough to carry always. I am a mechanical camera person but I would carry this and a film camera to an Island. It is not an underwater camera but could go is some sort of tiny housing I suppose. An older Nikonos with new seals might be the way to go for an underwater choice. I would not take the xpan without a tripod. For me a tripod is the way to get very sharp images with that machine. The lenses are slow.

-Dai
 
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