bluelight
Established
Hello,
Just wonder what's a good B&W film choice to shoot Dancing performance in a theatre?
I am thinking more for speed and contrast.
Thanks
Just wonder what's a good B&W film choice to shoot Dancing performance in a theatre?
I am thinking more for speed and contrast.
Thanks
Tuolumne
Veteran
Sorry, I almost exclusively use my R-D1 for this. But I have used Fuji Neopan 1600 to good effect on occasion.
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steverett
Anthopomorphized Camera
Meaning to control contrast? The lighting will create a lot of contrast already. Tri-X or HP5+ will give you good results at 800; that should be fast enough for normal stage lighting (EV 9 on Fred Parker's chart).
EDIT: If it's going to be dimly lit, you can also try Neopan 1600, but you will have a bit more grain.
EDIT: If it's going to be dimly lit, you can also try Neopan 1600, but you will have a bit more grain.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Inevitably, Delta 3200 (max ISO 1250) or TMZ (max ISO 1000 -- both in speed-increasinging developers such as Microphen or DD-X) will give lower contrast than 'pushed' HP5 or Tri-X (max ISO 650+) or Neopan (max ISO maybe 800). Because Delta 3200 and TMZ are 'long toe' films they should give acceptable contrast at 1600-2000.
But is low contrast what you need? And how fast a lens can you lay your hands on? And remember how many excellent pictures were taken in the days of old, slow films, pushed mercilessly. For some of the basic theory behind the meaning of film speed, you might care to look at:
http://www.rogerandfrances.com/photoschool/ps iso speeds.html
http://www.rogerandfrances.com/photoschool/ps neg density.html
Cheers,
R.
But is low contrast what you need? And how fast a lens can you lay your hands on? And remember how many excellent pictures were taken in the days of old, slow films, pushed mercilessly. For some of the basic theory behind the meaning of film speed, you might care to look at:
http://www.rogerandfrances.com/photoschool/ps iso speeds.html
http://www.rogerandfrances.com/photoschool/ps neg density.html
Cheers,
R.
Andrew Sowerby
Well-known
I like Neopan 1600. I just rate it as marked. Grain isn't too bad:


Ronald_H
Don't call me Ron
Try Tri-X at 1250-ish in Diafine.


squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
I like Neopan 1600 as well.


Al Kaplan
Veteran
Most stage lighting is quite contrasty. The actors/dancers/musicians are mostly very well lit. The most you'll need is Tri-X in Diafine, but if you can shoot at f/2.8 or f/2 at 1/30 second while rating the film at 400 and develop in a normal developer you'll probably like the negatves better. Diafine can look flat.
Fuji 400 and 1600 both use the SAME developing times which is a great feature if you shoot both
Fuji 400 and 1600 both use the SAME developing times which is a great feature if you shoot both
bluelight
Established
Thanks guys,
It seems that Pushed Tri-X or Neopan 1600 would be a good start.
For Roger, I shot a dancing performance earlier with XP2 at rated speed and it seems to be lacking in contrast. I ususally like to have clean backgroud and the images seems grainy on a black background. I probably didn't nail the exposure right.
The shots are amazing Andrew and Roland..
Cheers,
Ed
It seems that Pushed Tri-X or Neopan 1600 would be a good start.
For Roger, I shot a dancing performance earlier with XP2 at rated speed and it seems to be lacking in contrast. I ususally like to have clean backgroud and the images seems grainy on a black background. I probably didn't nail the exposure right.
The shots are amazing Andrew and Roland..
Cheers,
Ed
bluelight
Established
Thanks Al,
I have fast lenses available ( 1.2/1.4 ) but I am lacking the skill to focus fast enough. I am guessing that 1/.8/2.0 will give me buffer for human error. On the other hand, I need to rely on higher shutter speed to capture the movement ( I hope I am good enough to estimate the best moment to freeze the movement between actions with slower shutter speed).
I just got my developing kit with D-76 and I may start with it....
Cheers,
Ed
I have fast lenses available ( 1.2/1.4 ) but I am lacking the skill to focus fast enough. I am guessing that 1/.8/2.0 will give me buffer for human error. On the other hand, I need to rely on higher shutter speed to capture the movement ( I hope I am good enough to estimate the best moment to freeze the movement between actions with slower shutter speed).
I just got my developing kit with D-76 and I may start with it....
Cheers,
Ed
Creagerj
Incidental Artist
I've had really good luck with HP5 at 3200 and 1600 although my personal favorite is neopan 1600.
P. Lynn Miller
Well-known
Why not Tri-X at 3200 in Rodinal 1:100 for 120 minutes...
Alone...
Bessa R2 | Nokton 50mm f1.5 | Tri-X EI 3200 | Rodinal 1:100 Stand
Alone...

Bessa R2 | Nokton 50mm f1.5 | Tri-X EI 3200 | Rodinal 1:100 Stand
vieri
Leica Ambassador
Neopan 1600 @ box speed developed in 510-Pyro, or - if your light is very contrasty - Tri-X @ 1250-1600 in Diafine (lowers the contrast quite a bit).
jfserejo
Established
I recently used Rollei R3 @ EI 3200 (so I manage to shoot at 125 f4) developed in Rollei High Speed and liked the results a lot. Here's a sample:


jfserejo
Established
Ronald your shots are wonderful. So sharp and little grain! Great work
marke
Well-known
Wow, that's incredible! After giving it up nearly 30 years ago, I'm just getting back into processing my own. A new darkroom is in the works too.
I have never heard of "stand developing". Where can I learn more about it?
I have never heard of "stand developing". Where can I learn more about it?
Shadowplay
Established
www.apug.org would be a good starting pointWow, that's incredible! After giving it up nearly 30 years ago, I'm just getting back into processing my own. A new darkroom is in the works too.
I have never heard of "stand developing". Where can I learn more about it?
P. Lynn Miller
Well-known
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