Hipster vs. analog hobby photographer

[jsrockit]

Man, this thread took a weird turn... 😉

 

[hepcat]

Man, this thread took a weird turn... 😉

Only if you're not 55 or older. 😀

 

[nightfly]

If you think this is weird you should check out the in depth discussion of early 90's titanium mountain bike frames in the hipster thread...

Man, this thread took a weird turn... 😉

 

[Calzone]

Nice SIII! I really am quite jealous.

I had drafts, windows, and a cowl vent on my 1950 Ford F-1, my first "car." It was old then, but a lot of fun when I was 17. I confess that I've gone soft now. My FJ 'Cruiser does have a six-speed manual gearbox tho. I can't decide which of my '81 Scrambler, my '78 FJ 40, or my current FJ 'Cruiser is my favorite tho. The FJ 'Cruiser is sure the most comfortable.


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You have great taste. I live in NYC and no longer own a car. The FJ Crusier is high on my list. Also I like the cab yellow on yours. In the late seventies I was a NYC cab driver. LOL.

It seems that old guys that were cool back in the day somehow remain cool despite their age.

Offroad magazine did a wonderful buildup of an FJ40. They basically ultimized it for rock crawling with a Chevy 350. I think they had twin Ford 9 inch rears made up. By the time they were done the rig was bombproof.

Cal

 

[Calzone]

Only if you're not 55 or older. 😀

The line has been drawn. Nothing like original "Vintage" hipsters.

Cal

 

[kbg32]

Independent made the best steel frames when I was into biking. Frank the Welder also made nice frames for Spooky (then he went to Sinister-- I own the very first Sinister frame made).

Independent was formed out of Merlin Cycles by the guys who didn't want to move. The Fat Chance and Merlin shops were across from each in the same alleyway in Sommerville.

It can be debated whether Independent made the "best" steel frames. Fine frames yes. But there's Richard Sachs, Baylis, and a long host of others who certainly cut their chops long before Independent turned out their first steel steed.

 

[Calzone]

Independent was formed out of Merlin Cycles by the guys who didn't want to move. The Fat Chance and Merlin shops were across from each in the same alleyway in Sommerville.

It can be debated whether Independent made the "best" steel frames. Fine frames yes. But there's Richard Sachs, Baylis, and a long host of others who certainly cut their chops long before Independent turned out their first steel steed.

Back then there were many small boutique builders. Hard to say who really was the best. Sadly IBIS was bought out and is no longer an American builder. Grafton isn't around anymore, but they made great cranks and brakes. Back then there were many great builders and all of they were great. Merlin out of all the Ti bikes was the premium Ti frame builder.

Some of my friends had Fast Chances. From what I remember the two I rode had very balanced handling that was impressive, sturdy, yet still light and responsive.

Cal

 

[jsrockit]

If you think this is weird you should check out the in depth discussion of early 90's titanium mountain bike frames in the hipster thread...

And now it got even weirder.... 😱


(same thread nightfly) 😀

 

[kbg32]

Back then there were many small boutique builders. Hard to say who really was the best. Sadly IBIS was bought out and is no longer an American builder. Grafton isn't around anymore, but they made great cranks and brakes. Back then there were many great builders and all of they were great. Merlin out of all the Ti bikes was the premium Ti frame builder.

Some of my friends had Fast Chances. From what I remember the two I rode had very balanced handling that was impressive, sturdy, yet still light and responsive.

Cal

There still are a lot of great builders around today. There is a guy I sometimes see out on 9W who rides a purple Chris Chance frame. Man is it ever beautiful.

 

[--s]

Grafton isn't around anymore, but they made great cranks and brakes.

grafton had one of the best names ever for any bike product, their brake levers they called "re-entry levers", if i remember correctly.

 

[css9450]

Sadly IBIS was bought out and is no longer an American builder.

Say, are there any bikes made in America anymore? I need a new one and in a perfect world I could still get a nice Schwinn made right here in Chicago but that is no longer the case.

 

[kbg32]

Say, are there any bikes made in America anymore? I need a new one and in a perfect world I could still get a nice Schwinn made right here in Chicago but that is no longer the case.

Only from an independent custom builder, nothing factory made like Schwinn. Trek and Specialized are American companies, but I can't vouch where each of their models are made. Frames can be made in Taiwan, but if they are assembled here, they can be labeled, "Made In The USA", I believe.

 

[kbg32]

grafton had one of the best names ever for any bike product, their brake levers they called "re-entry levers", if i remember correctly.

Yes, they were the "Re-Entry" levers.

 

[MarylandBill]

You do realize that about half of these might apply to any self re-specting I.T. Geek 🙂.

I will throw out my answer....

I would say if you're younger and into any film camera you are going to get hipster comments; this is the usual thing if you show up with something that has become recognizably fashionable you'll be accused by someone of being fashionable. So be it.

Here's a quick hipster test (crude, since I don't know most of the shows/movies and absolutely none of the music that qualifies one):

Do you wear black/brown dress shoes w/ laces with no socks, and blue or black jeans?

Well, I always wear socks, but for a long time blue jeans and brown oxfords were my standard dress. To be a hipster they have to be skinny jeans don't they? Regular fit and looser fits are right out.

Do you have more than one hat?

No hats at all. And shouldn't be careful to exclude baseball caps and cowboy hats?

Do you disrespect people who work in beige office jobs / corporate world / mainstream lifestyles / expensive fashionable restaurants?

Do you pride yourself on drinking cheap canned beer? I realize in Europe this is iffy.

I suppose self inflicted suffering can be a point of pride...

Piercings? Tattoos?

T-shirts and button-down shirts worn tight?

Alas... yes, but not as a point of fashion as much as a point of poor diet and lack of exercise 🙂.

Do you currently own a pair of Converse All-Stars? Have you owned more than one pair? Would you wear them with black socks?

I have seen I.T. guys do this for 20+ years. It use to mark them as geeks.. not hip.

Do you think Barack Obama is a politician of the liberal left, despite all evidence to the contrary?

So Republicans are hipsters?

Everything depends on your perspective. Economically he is mostly moderate, but by an American standard, he is rather progressive socially.

Mac? Linux?

Here, this could be an I.T. thing. I would add the following caveat (for the linux people anyway)... if you don't now what :s/digital/film/g does 🙂.

Are neither you nor your girlfriend dominant in the relationship? Ie, are you both sort fo waiting for someone dominant and decisive to get there?

Would you be repelled by the idea of a regular weight lifting regimen?

Again, could apply to quote a few I.T. people.

Have you never purchased a physical CD? Have you purchased fewer than 20 even though you listen to a lot of music?

Would you never wear an article of clothing with the name of your university on it?

I.T. people again....

Do you think it would be great if you owned a Cooper Mini?

Do you ride an old / vintage bicycle of the not-ten-speed type? Does it have a basket?

Those are some questions and if you answered yes to a high number of them, then dude, just get used to it.

--
Bill

 

[--s]

when i was visiting a friend in sydney, he showed me a bird i didn´t know yet: "look, an ibis!" all i could think of and shouting out loud enthusiastically was "MOJO!!!" he gave me a weird look then.

 

[Calzone]

grafton had one of the best names ever for any bike product, their brake levers they called "re-entry levers", if i remember correctly.

I feel lucky to have two sets of Grafton cranks and a set of Speed Controllers on my Ti bikes. Also have the discontinued purple anodized "Moon Units" from Paul.

Remember Micro-drive? Currently I'm using Suntour thumb shifters with a Dura Ace rear derailure and a Ti 12-21 eight-speed cassette.

It is very cool to still own a tricked out retro bike. Back in the day I was known a a "Weight Weenie." LOL.

Cal

 

[css9450]

Do you currently own a pair of Converse All-Stars? Have you owned more than one pair?

I've long wondered - what is the fascination with those things? They look like they're most uncomfortable sneakers ever made, which is probably no small accomplishment in a category of shoes which is meant to be, above all else, comfortable.

 

[Calzone]

I've long wondered - what is the fascination with those things? They look like they're most uncomfortable sneakers ever made, which is probably no small accomplishment in a category of shoes which is meant to be, above all else, comfortable.

All-Stars are pretty comfortable. Back in the seventies I owned many a pair. I was fond of the high tops. They were made primarily for basket ball. Some of my friends could wear out a pair in about a week. This is of course before basketball shoes like the Air Jordon came out.

Puma's are another retro basketball sneaker. I also liked these, especially the red suede versions.

The longevity of being produced and manufactured over several decades and their continued popularity are a wonderful statement of market endurance that has spanned generations. No evolution was needed or required.

Cal

 

[jsrockit]

I've long wondered - what is the fascination with those things?

For me, I like them and Vans for the fact that they are flat and you can feel what's beneath your feet. And I like the look of them. I rarely wear converse these days, but wear vans constantly. I have flat feet and they work for me. Arches kill my feet.

 

[Calzone]

Also forgot to mention that on smooth floors sudden shifts, quick stops, and sometimes even quick steps make rather loud noises on gym floors an other hard surfaces in an amplified manner.

Back on topic: these sounds can annoy people. Converse sneakers are particularly loud because of very soft rubber. In a way it can sound like a car skidding.

Cal